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Von Bongo 07-17-2008 04:03 PM

2 powerplays at National Liquidators
 
Both look rough and no power in either..

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=17935

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=15687

Woder what the one with Pulse drives handles like :eek:

Boomer35 07-17-2008 04:12 PM

i like the name of that boat

"live your dreams" -until the repo man comes

wstultz 07-17-2008 04:33 PM

Black one has been sunk.

Don't know about the one with pulse drives.

northernoffshore 07-18-2008 09:05 AM

black one was sold for 30.000 .

TxHawk 07-18-2008 12:24 PM

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I cant imagine a setup that requires half the transom being cut out? On top of that it looks like the pulse extension bolts through the transom without an inner plate to sandwhich, just washers. Maybe this is another thread!

cowisl 07-18-2008 01:08 PM

poor boats! kills me to see that

Indy 07-18-2008 04:29 PM

What a waste of two nice boats.

THEJOKER 07-28-2008 08:55 PM

Anybody know who bought them?

FunHome 08-04-2008 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by northernoffshore (Post 2627674)
black one was sold for 30.000 .

That seems fair.....

Jupiter Sunsation 08-04-2008 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by FunHome (Post 2644624)
That seems fair.....

Black one was sunk in salt water, full submersion. Boat wasn't worth 10K considering it sold two years ago in running condition/ genny-a/c, electronics etc for 150K. Boat will need 150K to get it back to the water again.

It was sold to a buyer in the midwest in a matter of hours after being listed. National never mentioned the submarine abilities the boat had experienced........:eek:

DareDevil 08-05-2008 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by ExcaliburHawk40 (Post 2627947)
I cant imagine a setup that requires half the transom being cut out? On top of that it looks like the pulse extension bolts through the transom without an inner plate to sandwhich, just washers. Maybe this is another thread!

Looks scary to me !:party-smiley-004:

Jassman 08-06-2008 02:11 PM

I know of 4 perf. boats that got a Pulse Drive. It might have it's place, but no way on a perf boat. 3 of the 4 have converted back to their orig drive. Speed actually decreased, the bow never got high enough which scrubbed speed. It is nothing like an Arneson drive, which I approve of.

baja27 08-07-2008 08:24 AM

I rode in the white one with pulse drives, it had 750 sterlings the most I ever saw was 86mph with fuel @ 6000rpm. It screamed , prop slip was of the hook. Nice ride though.

Sydwayz 08-07-2008 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 2647214)
I rode in the white one with pulse drives, it had 750 sterlings the most I ever saw was 86mph with fuel @ 6000rpm. It screamed , prop slip was of the hook. Nice ride though.

I believe the white one with Pulse drives was the first one popped. Accordingly, it was pretty heavy. The Pulse drive setup was an effort to get better performance/reliability than a traditional B1 derivative setup would offer, at that time.

Jassman 08-07-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2647687)
I believe the white one with Pulse drives was the first one popped. Accordingly, it was pretty heavy. The Pulse drive setup was an effort to get better performance/reliability than a traditional B1 derivative setup would offer, at that time.


They should have worked with Rik on some ASD-6's at the time, got it dialed in, then they would have had something reliable and fast.

XPRESS 33PP 08-07-2008 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 2647214)
I rode in the white one with pulse drives, it had 750 sterlings the most I ever saw was 86mph with fuel @ 6000rpm. It screamed , prop slip was of the hook. Nice ride though.

They have gotten the 38 up to 86 with 525's
What a waste of $$$

Cig35Mistress 09-08-2008 11:26 PM

Wasn't the black boat owned by and named Fast Finance at one point? Prior to that wasn't it owned by one of the owners of OSO? If so, I remember it, and "Live Your Dreams" on the transom, from the Stuart Invitational Platinum poker run year before last . . . its ironic and upsetting at the same time if the boat was in fact a repossession, as the owners were in the finance business. It's a sad but true indicator of these turbulent times we're experiencing. It was a gorgeous boat when it was all together though! How did it sink?

Harry

Jupiter Sunsation 09-09-2008 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Cig35Mistress (Post 2679141)
Wasn't the black boat owned by and named Fast Finance at one point? Prior to that wasn't it owned by one of the owners of OSO? If so, I remember it, and "Live Your Dreams" on the transom, from the Stuart Invitational Platinum poker run year before last . . . its ironic and upsetting at the same time if the boat was in fact a repossession, as the owners were in the finance business. It's a sad but true indicator of these turbulent times we're experiencing. It was a gorgeous boat when it was all together though! How did it sink?

Harry


Yep. Sunk at a residential dock on Singer Island earlier this year after being left in the water for 3 weeks/no shore power. A/C line below waterline broke and bilge pumps kept up as long as the batteries could.

My buddy from North Palm built it new and still talks about how he can't believe one of the nicest 38 PP's left the factory less than 5 years ago and now is junk.

Boat sold at National for 30K, went to the midwest. Buyer probably didn't know the boat had submarine capabilities since National never disclosed it.

Cig35Mistress 09-10-2008 12:51 AM

Do we know if the boat was actually repossessed or if it was an insurance liquidation? Why in god's name was it left in the water for 3 weeks? Abandoned or just plain ignorance? I was very intrigued by the Fast Finance guys, they seemed like a class act at the Stuart run, and being a boat guy in the mortgage business, I was intrigued and figured I might be able to do some business with them at some point.

Cig35Mistress 09-10-2008 12:55 AM

and . . . for being a complete submersion, it looks remarkably clean! Pictures would have (did) fooled me, hopefully a good visual inspection would have told the story. I wonder what recourse the buyer has if National didn't disclose the sinking . . .

dkwestern 09-10-2008 12:06 PM

if it was tied up to a dock, it may not have went all the way under???

30k for a painted hull, deck, hydraulic steering, tabs, gimbals, swim platform, hardware, doesn't seem terrible even if it needs all new wiring.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-10-2008 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by dkwestern (Post 2681068)
if it was tied up to a dock, it may not have went all the way under???

30k for a painted hull, deck, hydraulic steering, tabs, gimbals, swim platform, hardware, doesn't seem terrible even if it needs all new wiring.

Boat was on the bottom, water covering the fairing, full submersion. I saw the pictures before it was re-floated. It spent about 30 hours under salt water.

Yeah enough stuff was there but you need new power, drives, generator, interior and after buying all that and putting the 30K on top you can buy another boat a lot cheaper with no work. Boat sold two years ago for 150K in perfect running order, cold a/c in the cabin with a flat screen on the wall.

dkwestern 09-10-2008 03:05 PM

not arguing, but how did it go all the way down when tied up? I guess if only 1 side was tied it would go all the way, just hanging sideways.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-10-2008 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by dkwestern (Post 2681291)
not arguing, but how did it go all the way down when tied up? I guess if only 1 side was tied it would go all the way, just hanging sideways.

Didn't send the CSI rope analysis team to inspect the tie job.

Here is where you can start your investigation:
http://www.realtor.com/realestate/si...04-1084743091/

Look at picture 19, it shows the pool with the 38 PP tied up at the dock across the canal. It appears to be tied to a boat that is tied to the actual dock. Don't know if it was done that way the day of the sinking but the pics I saw had an oil slick on the fairing and on the headliner of the cabin. To me that is a high water mark and everything below that was under salt water.

Get back to me Horatio when you hear from the lab boys downtown..........

Spicy 09-11-2008 06:40 AM

Does anyone know who bought the PP? How he plans on rebuilding, with what motors,paint, drives ,etc....

Just curious thats all???

northernoffshore 09-11-2008 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2681205)
Boat was on the bottom, water covering the fairing, full submersion. I saw the pictures before it was re-floated. It spent about 30 hours under salt water.

Yeah enough stuff was there but you need new power, drives, generator, interior and after buying all that and putting the 30K on top you can buy another boat a lot cheaper with no work. Boat sold two years ago for 150K in perfect running order, cold a/c in the cabin with a flat screen on the wall.

If the batteries were on every thing has corrsion. Salt is a killer.

johnnyboatman 09-17-2008 09:25 PM

its in oklahoma redone w/500s asking 65k i think w/o trailer, ive seen it not sure but didnt look like full submerse.

northernoffshore 09-18-2008 10:22 AM

Where is the ad or listing on.

baja27 09-18-2008 10:45 AM

I just spoke with the owner of it. They put stock 500's with bravo drives from a burned up Scrab. They did nothing else to it. They took out the AC and Gen. He does know about it sinking. No trailer. So she is going to need a good amount of work to make it sweet again.

Spicy 09-25-2008 11:23 AM

Since this thread is about 38 Powerplay's I found this on Boattrader this morning... 170K "yet serious offers are considered"




http://www.boattrader.com/find/listi...Sport-93764389

Jupiter Sunsation 09-25-2008 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Spicy (Post 2697041)
Since this thread is about 38 Powerplay's I found this on Boattrader this morning... 170K "yet serious offers are considered"




http://www.boattrader.com/find/listi...Sport-93764389

Leo is the original owner of that boat and just re-did the power with new motors. Boat runs 90 with that power.

Spicy 09-25-2008 04:40 PM

if my 400SS finds a new owner there are a few 38 Powerplay owners phones that will be ringing.....:evilb::drink::ernaehrung004:

baja27 09-26-2008 08:27 AM

I am surprised that boat only runs 90 with 750's. I guess those b max drive are not helping.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-26-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 2698035)
I am surprised that boat only runs 90 with 750's. I guess those b max drive are not helping.

Powerplay 38's are ridiculously overbuilt and therefore heavy...... Best riding boat I have ever been on and I have caught rides on everything from a 38 TS TG, Sunsation F4, 41 Apache, Nortech 43V........ The Powerplay was outstanding!

northernoffshore 09-27-2008 09:38 AM

I thought that (30000) was a good enough deal on the 38' I was waiting to see what it would go for and threw in some low ball offers, that were rejected. Hate to see it slaped together for the quick resale in oklamhoma. It should of been properly cleaned and rerigged with big power.

DEFYN GRAVITY 09-27-2008 02:35 PM

$197,500 or best offer!!! www.defyngravity.com 80 fresh water hours, heated garage during the winter. KE 675's EXCELLENT CONDITION!!!!!

dkwestern 09-27-2008 02:48 PM

Robbie, doesn't yours run 94-95 mph with the 675's?

Maybe those Bmaxs suck the power out to go 90 with 750's??

DEFYN GRAVITY 09-27-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dkwestern (Post 2699324)
Robbie, doesn't yours run 94-95 mph with the 675's?

Maybe those Bmaxs suck the power out to go 90 with 750's??

Yes, you hit the nail on the head!!!!! 93-95 is the number. was going to go with the B-max's, chickened out at crunch time, wish the 700 package was available when we built. We love the boat, just trying to move to Florida. Can't live on the water and own the boat at the same time. The dollars are stretched to tight to pull that off!!!! Robbie

Jupiter Sunsation 09-29-2008 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by DEFYN GRAVITY (Post 2699331)
Yes, you hit the nail on the head!!!!! 93-95 is the number. was going to go with the B-max's, chickened out at crunch time, wish the 700 package was available when we built. We love the boat, just trying to move to Florida. Can't live on the water and own the boat at the same time. The dollars are stretched to tight to pull that off!!!! Robbie

The navy hull boat was just re-rigged with 700's/NXT's and runs 100 and they are still playing with props. It is a duplicate to the black hull (Oliver's, former OSO, former fast finance, National Liquidators) but navy instead of black. Boat is a weapon with the new power. Oliver said it was the perfect power combo after running for 100 miles at WOT.

baja27 09-29-2008 10:35 AM

Hey Jupiter how did the rigging?


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