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kds 09-22-2009 07:26 PM

25 pp engine height question
 
i just put on a pair of 20 inch 300x on my 25 powerplay. with the engine tuck all the way under and resting on the top of the stern. it came with a 1/4 inch plate on the top of the stern but i replace it with same size plate but on the stern too. the sportmaster nosecone is a 1/4 inch above the flat spot. to me it seem to high. please help, thanks

Ed 09-22-2009 07:47 PM

What props ya got?

kds 09-22-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ed (Post 2958422)
What props ya got?

i dont have any props as yet. i was goin to use some bravos or choppers but i dont know what size prop to use. could u steer me in the right direction with what u think is best for me. thanks

Powerplay25 09-22-2009 10:32 PM

With 20" mids, if mounting the motors directly on the transom, mount them as low as you can. The prop shafts will be about even with the bottom of the boat. If running the ocean a lot you may want to consider hydraulic jack plates so you can run the motors deeper when it gets rough.

You will have a better cruise with Bravo's and better top end with choppers.

I'm actually running mine with Bravo's right now, but switching to choppers for next season.

kds 09-23-2009 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2958570)
With 20" mids, if mounting the motors directly on the transom, mount them as low as you can. The prop shafts will be about even with the bottom of the boat. If running the ocean a lot you may want to consider hydraulic jack plates so you can run the motors deeper when it gets rough.

You will have a better cruise with Bravo's and better top end with choppers.

I'm actually running mine with Bravo's right now, but switching to choppers for next season.

i didnt use jack plates because i wanted to keep the balance of the boat. with the weight of the motors i have on plus the jack plate i think the stern of the boat will be to heavy. the boat had on 260 + jackplates,without the jackplates on now is jus a couple lb heavies. trying to keep the boat the same weight like from factory. what size bravos or choppers should i run? my gear case is 1:62. thanks

Powerplay25 09-23-2009 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 2958656)
i didnt use jack plates because i wanted to keep the balance of the boat. with the weight of the motors i have on plus the jack plate i think the stern of the boat will be to heavy. the boat had on 260 + jackplates,without the jackplates on now is jus a couple lb heavies. trying to keep the boat the same weight like from factory. what size bravos or choppers should i run? my gear case is 1:62. thanks


With 1.62's, I would try 24" pitch props first. If you can pull them to 6800 rpm's and are set up correctly you will see 85-87 mph.

Call BBlades. They have a prop exchange program. If the 24's are not enough you can exchange for a set of 26's.

http://bblades.com/

kds 09-23-2009 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 2958400)
i just put on a pair of 20 inch 300x on my 25 powerplay. with the engine tuck all the way under and resting on the top of the stern. it came with a 1/4 inch plate on the top of the stern but i replace it with same size plate but on the stern too. the sportmaster nosecone is a 1/4 inch above the flat spot. to me it seem to high. please help, thanks

would i get to trim the boat well to get a good bow lift with that engine height without running a temperature ?

Powerplay25 09-23-2009 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 2958755)
would i get to trim the boat well to get a good bow lift with that engine height without running a temperature ?

What lowers are you running?

kds 09-23-2009 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2958809)
What lowers are you running?

sportmasters

Powerplay25 09-23-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 2958843)
sportmasters

You'll have no problem with water pressure.

kds 09-23-2009 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2958846)
You'll have no problem with water pressure.

thanks alot, i will keep you inform when the boats in the water. planning to put it in the water by next weekend. i am hoping to get 90mph with those 300x motors.i know i might have to use some choppers to get there but ill start with bravos.

Ed 09-23-2009 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 2958849)
thanks alot, i will keep you inform when the boats in the water. planning to put it in the water by next weekend. i am hoping to get 90mph with those 300x motors.i know i might have to use some choppers to get there but ill start with bravos.

Good luck with your initial seatrial. Tell us how it goes. I would begin with(if I had a choice) 26" Bravo l's, to get an idea of the pitch you'll need. When you decide what props your using, then send them out to be labbed. We put together 3 or 4 basic 25 center-consoles that did low 90's with the same power. One being Enrique Iglesias's boat. Your boat is capable of the same.:drink:

kds 09-23-2009 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Ed (Post 2959072)
Good luck with your initial seatrial. Tell us how it goes. I would begin with(if I had a choice) 26" Bravo l's, to get an idea of the pitch you'll need. When you decide what props your using, then send them out to be labbed. We put together 3 or 4 basic 25 center-consoles that did low 90's with the same power. One being Enrique Iglesias's boat. Your boat is capable of the same.:drink:

THANKS ALOT GUYS,YOU COME TRU FOR ME EVERYTIME.

kds 01-03-2010 10:22 PM

sea trial (powerplay25 and ed)
 
i finally put the boat in the water today. those 300x's really got some hp. i couldnt push the boat because i was breaking in the new lower units. but i was cruising in the 60's. the 26 bravo's worked fine. weekend i will put it in the water and let you know what its dailed in too. i will post some pics too.

kds 01-25-2010 08:44 AM

Thanks Again Ed
 

Originally Posted by Ed (Post 2959072)
Good luck with your initial seatrial. Tell us how it goes. I would begin with(if I had a choice) 26" Bravo l's, to get an idea of the pitch you'll need. When you decide what props your using, then send them out to be labbed. We put together 3 or 4 basic 25 center-consoles that did low 90's with the same power. One being Enrique Iglesias's boat. Your boat is capable of the same.:drink:

i started with the 26" bravo 1's like you said an i am running them now too. they are a little big an as u said need to be labbed but the boat is in the high 80's. just letting you all know. i thank you all for your input very much.

Powerplay25 01-25-2010 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by kds (Post 3031060)
i started with the 26" bravo 1's like you said an i am running them now too. they are a little big an as u said need to be labbed but the boat is in the high 80's. just letting you all know. i thank you all for your input very much.

Sounds like you are getting some good speed out of it. Are you spinning your props in or out?

kds 01-25-2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 3031072)
Sounds like you are getting some good speed out of it. Are you spinning your props in or out?

I AM SPINNING THEM OUT FOR RIGHT NOW. THAT WAS MY SECOUND TIME OUT IN THE BOAT.THE MOTORS ARE WORKING GREAT AND THE LOWER UNITS(1.62) WERE JUST REBUILT WITH NEW INTERNAL PARTS. ITS VERY SUPRISING TO SEE HOW GREAT THESE BOAT RUN WITH THE PROPSHAFT LINE UP EVEN WITH THE BOTTOM OF THE STERN. POWERPLAY25 ,HOW MUCH MILES DID U GAIN WITH THE PROPS SPINNING INWARDS? I AM THINKING ABOUT SENDING A PAIR OF 26 BRAVO 1"S TO GET LABBED. THANKS YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP GUYS.

Powerplay25 01-25-2010 09:16 PM

Had a major issue with one of my engines late in the season. The good news is I got a new powerhead out of it. At the time I got the new powerhead I swapped my lowers for inward rotation. I only made one run with the boat before putting it away for the winter. I can definately tell there is more speed with the rotation change, but did not want to run the motor too hard as I have to get some hours on it first.

I'm also running 26" Bravo I's. Now that the props are spinning inward I am getting much more stern lift with these props. Actually too much. My next step is a pair of choppers which will suck the stern down and lift the bow.


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