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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3623806)
Lets see how they are built and rigged first. I sure would like a new stagger 33 with a cabin. :evilb:
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Originally Posted by Wally
(Post 3623837)
The 25' molds are still in south FL and have not been used since the PP aution. Karl at Dolphin Boats has them and from what he has told me can be bought if someone was interested...
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Tom,
The new 33 looks great. My 2 cents: 1) I am part of the 50% that doesn't like the new hatch but appreciate the rationale behind it. The lack of drainage hasn't been an issue for me so I would stick with the flush look. 2) I love the new bolsters - would like to see one with the throttles in the armrest like many of the original 33s. 3) The new console - would want to see it in person before making a final judgement but from the pics I must admit I prefer the look of the one latitude built. But again I know sometimes pictures don't do justice. 4) Were you able to incorporate a fold away swim ladder on the bracket? Mine has a removal ladder that I store in the floor. A fixed ladder would be much more convenient. 5) I would also add a shower at the transom if I were building a new boat. 6) A proper fish locker at the transom is great! 7) Self bailing - fantastic! All in all, great job! Looking forward to seeing many more of these new and improved PowerPlays! |
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The rigging in the Powerplay 33 Sportfish is top notch. If there are areas not pictured that you would like to see specific photos of let us know and we will do our best to get them for you.
Fred Allstar Marine [email protected] |
Well Tom I have to say that I was fairly impressed with the 33 Fish. For being the 1st one built, I couldn't pick it too bad and I am one of the pickiest people out there. If you do everything you say you are going to do, Powerplay will be back in all of its former glory. Not crazy about the deck hatch at all, but understand the argument. Didnt like that the deck or deck mold was in dire need of some love. Lots of ripples, body lines were poor at best, but overall, for molds that have not been used in years, not bad. I hope you and Pat continue to make the changes and improvements that the public are wanting. There is lots of competition out there, but you have a good head start on them by starting with one of the best quality rough water boats on the water.
Oh yea...put the logo back to the way it was, I spent good money on it. |
[QUOTE=POWERPLAY J;3623806]
Originally Posted by sunsation96
(Post 3623773)
Lets see how they are built and rigged first. I sure would like a new stagger 33 with a cabin. :evilb: How about with some of the new LS based Ilmore's, that'd help the balance without stagger. See, this sounds like it's a done deal, and you can't give up any cockpit room as you're gonna have to fit a lot of us in your new PP.:evilb: |
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3623806)
Why stagger? Isn't balance pretty good on yours? How about with some of the new LS based Ilmore's, that'd help the balance without stagger. See, this sounds like it's a done deal, and you can't give up any cockpit room as you're gonna have to fit a lot of us in your new PP.:evilb: |
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3623806)
Why stagger? |
No stagger with an ilmor/arneson setup.....
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Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3624734)
No stagger with an ilmor/arneson setup.....
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Staggered 700's nxt drives. I can appreciate the Arnesons but have no interest in them hanging off the back of my boat. :)
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3625460)
Staggered 700's nxt drives. I can appreciate the Arnesons but have no interest in them hanging off the back of my boat. :)
I like something pretty modern, but not over the top. |
Don't forget a Carbon fiber layup too...
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Nkosi- placing the throttles/shifters in the armrest of the bolsters will be an easy option to put in, we were able to incorporate a fold-a-way swim ladder and on the next boat there will be one on both sides of the bracket, also there are two fresh water showers one mounted forward and one mounted aft coming off of a 25 gallon fresh water tank. The forward hose can reach all the way to the bow making it possible to rinse off the windlass if nessecary and the rear hose reaches all around the back of the engines making it possible to rinse them if need be
J - We're not sure if the boat is big enough to incorporate two rows of bolsters, a staggered engine setup,cabin and extended sun pad. However we will take all the measurements tomorrow and I will get back to you. On the other hand I can do all you ask and more by simply building a 38'! |
Can't Touch This II........now were talking. 1550 Chiefs hooked to ASD 8's
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Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J
(Post 3625460)
Staggered 700's nxt drives. I can appreciate the Arnesons but have no interest in them hanging off the back of my boat. :)
Boat is solid navy blue with a white deck.... Very classy look. |
LOL you guys are killing me!
Tom, were you able to obtain the 38 molds as well? Last I heard they were in Pampano. |
Originally Posted by Powerplay Tom
(Post 3618840)
Hello, my name is Tom Mason, in 2005 while I still owned Midnight Express, I bought the Powerplay molds for the 33 Openfish, 33 Sport Deck, and the 38 Super Sport. After Midnight was sold I signed a 5 year non-compete to pretty much stay out of the boating business. Let’s fast forward to last summer of 2011, I sold my 38 Powerplay, (the one with the outboards) to a gentleman from the Caribbean. He then inquired about representing Powerplay in and around the southern Caribbean. I flew to Martinique to do some market research and found there was a lot of interest in Powerplays because of their ride in the “big stuff” and their quality. Ok cliff notes: I get an inquiry to sell a brand new 33 O/B cuddy to a marine dealer in Martinique and I tell the gentleman that there is NO WAY to just build one boat. I also told the gentleman if we do agree to sell him a boat I would like to change some things on the boat. In other words, I did not want to build the exact same Powerplay that had been around for 25 years. I thought the boat could use some updating and, since it’s the first one for me it’s going to take some time. By the time I arrive back in Florida, there is a $25,000.00 deposit in my account... (I’m pretty sure at this point...he is serious)! We contacted 3 different boat building friends: one is in the middle of the state, one in Palm Beach, and one in Miami about building the first hull/prototype 33. The original carpenter that we used to build the molds for Midnight has a shop at Concept Boats. We talked with Luis at Concept who built a great boat. We explained to him that the first boat HAD to be built to “my standards” and proceeded to show him our requirements for laminate, gelcoat and coring. Luis agreed to all these standards and we started the first hull in July 2011. The laminate schedule for the bottom has 2 layers less than we used at Midnight because the hull panels are much closer together. Adding more glass does not do much for tensile strength except adding a lot more weight. All of this was shown to a naval architect and approved (as an off the record comment he said it was WAY over built). The gelcoat and the resins are even better because the technology has improved in the past 6 years. Here is a short list of what we changed in the boat: ALL of the wood is GONE, Air cell foam is used for the stringers, decks and transom, the new console design is able to hold (2) 10” Garmins, stand up head inside the console with a fiberglass floor, transom fish box that runs almost the entire width of the transom and, is bonded to the deck it also drains overboard, the 128 gallon fuel tanks and the 25 gallon water tank are moved forward to help carry the weight of the four strokes, the two jump seats are located in the forward part of the cabin interior so that the room to lay down in the cabin is now over 9 feet, the cabin has a fiberglass floor, the cockpit is self bailing for twin outboards, LED navigation and anchor lights, (8) flush mount cleats, battery switch breaker panel mounted inside the console, (2) new fish/ storage boxes mounted below deck that pump overboard, ALL stainless steel hardware and a Bowmar hatch on the cabin because I could not see any way that water could drain from the gutter. All in all, I think especially for the first one, she turned out pretty cool. We have already started to make changes on the second boat that will require some minor mold modifications (bigger hatches, recesses for hinges that we can thru bolt and a full fiberglass liner for the cabin). The hull weight came in with the gas tanks being 500lbs, bracket being 250 lbs and, misc interior parts at right around 5,500 lbs without motors. Total weight with twin four strokes between 9,000 and 9, 500 lbs. This first boat is sold and the dealer/customer requested Suzuki power. The boat will be at the Miami show this weekend, so if you have a chance stop by and see her in person! Please, tell me what you think. Also...If you wear something that says Powerplay on it, I will buy you a frosty adult beverage, and send you a license plate with the new logo on it color coded to match your vehicle! We should have pictures up by Thursday for those of you that can’t make it to ,the show. If I can answer any questions please do not hesitate to call me (954) 868-2021. Tom
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3625643)
A 38/700/NXT boat lives on the west coast! It began life as a 525/XR boat and the owner re-rigged it two years ago.... Boat has about 100 hours on it total (it had about 50 hours on it when it got re-rigged).
Boat is solid navy blue with a white deck.... Very classy look. |
Originally Posted by AB69Z
(Post 3625896)
Any pics of that boat ?
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/x...PP/2hgz50j.jpg |
Tom purchased the 33' Sportdeck, 33' Sportfish, and the 38' Sportdeck molds at the auction.
Allstar Marine |
Originally Posted by AB69Z
(Post 3625896)
Any pics of that boat ?
http://i40.tinypic.com/2knibd.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/t5omzs.jpg |
That is one classy 38' Powerplay. Awesome color combination.
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J, *135 inches from inside the transom to the dash board bulkhead. To do staggered motors we need approx 80 " of motor box. Each bolster needs at least *24 inches front to back plus room to get in and out . It can be done but you would have to give up some cabin space which we could do with a temporary insert in the mold. Also, there would be lots of custom work on the *cabin door, floor, etc. a new motor box mold and you might have to give up some fuel . Also I'm not trying to make any money here but it will cost an additional $30,000 to $35,000 *for the custom glass work and *take about 6 to 9 months
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Tom, if and only if I was to do anything I would want a 6pk with the front bolsters and 3 holes in the back plus a cabin. And I would do my own power. I work with another builder and am very aware of the cost to do a boat similiar to what I want. I can rig it and do anything myself. The comment I made about a 700sci stagger was if I won the powerball. That said I really hope you guys can sell some boats and pull it off. I really would like to see one before I would do anything. But now that someone has the molds and are willing to do boats I am not opposed to seeing what you produce and might be willing to do a blank hull for the right $$$.
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Subscribed..., the 33' sport fish looks great! A 38' sportfish... can't imagine...,
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OSO Steve owned the 38 for a while
It sold and partial sunk after I think? Maybe why it was rerigged |
Originally Posted by dreamer
(Post 3631351)
OSO Steve owned the 38 for a while
It sold and partial sunk after I think? Maybe why it was rerigged |
Here is Steve running with DT42 and I think it was his brother's boat.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...dDT800x600.jpg |
Cool pic Dave. thanks for sharing
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Originally Posted by Powerplay Tom
(Post 3618840)
Hello, my name is Tom Mason, in 2005 while I still owned Midnight Express, I bought the Powerplay molds for the 33 Openfish, 33 Sport Deck, and the 38 Super Sport. After Midnight was sold I signed a 5 year non-compete to pretty much stay out of the boating business. Let’s fast forward to last summer of 2011, I sold my 38 Powerplay, (the one with the outboards) to a gentleman from the Caribbean. He then inquired about representing Powerplay in and around the southern Caribbean. I flew to Martinique to do some market research and found there was a lot of interest in Powerplays because of their ride in the “big stuff” and their quality. Ok cliff notes: I get an inquiry to sell a brand new 33 O/B cuddy to a marine dealer in Martinique and I tell the gentleman that there is NO WAY to just build one boat. I also told the gentleman if we do agree to sell him a boat I would like to change some things on the boat. In other words, I did not want to build the exact same Powerplay that had been around for 25 years. I thought the boat could use some updating and, since it’s the first one for me it’s going to take some time. By the time I arrive back in Florida, there is a $25,000.00 deposit in my account... (I’m pretty sure at this point...he is serious)! We contacted 3 different boat building friends: one is in the middle of the state, one in Palm Beach, and one in Miami about building the first hull/prototype 33. The original carpenter that we used to build the molds for Midnight has a shop at Concept Boats. We talked with Luis at Concept who built a great boat. We explained to him that the first boat HAD to be built to “my standards” and proceeded to show him our requirements for laminate, gelcoat and coring. Luis agreed to all these standards and we started the first hull in July 2011. The laminate schedule for the bottom has 2 layers less than we used at Midnight because the hull panels are much closer together. Adding more glass does not do much for tensile strength except adding a lot more weight. All of this was shown to a naval architect and approved (as an off the record comment he said it was WAY over built). The gelcoat and the resins are even better because the technology has improved in the past 6 years. Here is a short list of what we changed in the boat: ALL of the wood is GONE, Air cell foam is used for the stringers, decks and transom, the new console design is able to hold (2) 10” Garmins, stand up head inside the console with a fiberglass floor, transom fish box that runs almost the entire width of the transom and, is bonded to the deck it also drains overboard, the 128 gallon fuel tanks and the 25 gallon water tank are moved forward to help carry the weight of the four strokes, the two jump seats are located in the forward part of the cabin interior so that the room to lay down in the cabin is now over 9 feet, the cabin has a fiberglass floor, the cockpit is self bailing for twin outboards, LED navigation and anchor lights, (8) flush mount cleats, battery switch breaker panel mounted inside the console, (2) new fish/ storage boxes mounted below deck that pump overboard, ALL stainless steel hardware and a Bowmar hatch on the cabin because I could not see any way that water could drain from the gutter. All in all, I think especially for the first one, she turned out pretty cool. We have already started to make changes on the second boat that will require some minor mold modifications (bigger hatches, recesses for hinges that we can thru bolt and a full fiberglass liner for the cabin). The hull weight came in with the gas tanks being 500lbs, bracket being 250 lbs and, misc interior parts at right around 5,500 lbs without motors. Total weight with twin four strokes between 9,000 and 9, 500 lbs. This first boat is sold and the dealer/customer requested Suzuki power. The boat will be at the Miami show this weekend, so if you have a chance stop by and see her in person! Please, tell me what you think. Also...If you wear something that says Powerplay on it, I will buy you a frosty adult beverage, and send you a license plate with the new logo on it color coded to match your vehicle! We should have pictures up by Thursday for those of you that can’t make it to ,the show. If I can answer any questions please do not hesitate to call me (954) 868-2021. Tom
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this is an old thread but what ever happened with the "New Powerplay"?
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