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Fast Forward 12-14-2005 01:33 PM

29 Enticer Owners
 
Well I've got maybe two years left on our 26 before we'll have out grown it. I tend to lean more towards the 29 Enticer than the 28 due to cockpit size. Just wondering how well you guys like your 29 and power options that would be recomended?
That of course pending PQ is still around when we make the move?

powerquest 380 12-14-2005 04:35 PM

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My last PQ was a 29 and I loved it. 7.4 MPIs are pretty much the only power you will find unless your going older, like 95 or older then there are some 502s around. Make sure to get the weekend package (shore pwr, pump out head, ext...) I would also try and get one on a triple not a double trailer, I see a few around on doublr axel trailers, but there much heavier than PQ says. You will not be unhappy in a 29. Hope this helps, good luck :drink:

cbgenrl 12-14-2005 05:53 PM

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I really love mine and I think its a great boat for the market price. That said, I have never been in a 28 but suspect it is a more efficient package. Ofcourse, its really nice to have twins if you can affort to feed them.

The cabin is exceptionally large for a 29 boat, we overnight about 10 nights a year and that pays dividends. The 29 is not a pure performance boat by today's definition......but that is actually why it appeals to me (room and creature comforts).

Also, I agree with 380 on the weekend package, pump out, and tri-axle. I have all 3 :D

K planes would be nice as well as external steering. And I would like to find another 1.5 mph so I can see 70 gps :cool: Good luck finding that on a stock enticer...

I have a clean 97 and it still shows well against the latest and greatest with its classic lines.

ckentling 12-14-2005 05:59 PM

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I looked around and was looking at a 280 for a long time but they were going for a much higher price since gas was north of 3 bucks and a single is a lot less to feed. I found a 290 that had 502 mags, external steering, kplanes, weekender, triple axle steel trailer, and had just had several of the cockpit pieces recovered, and it saved me a ton of cash over a 280. Now I just get to spend the savings on fuel. I have yet to do anything but look at it, but come spring I should be able to give you a much more in depth review.

From the limited time I have with it, I can only say that it is exceeding my expectations, only complaint is engne access is a little, ummmm, tight

Enticer Rick 12-14-2005 07:12 PM

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Had a 28 and now own a 29. The Enticer is definatley a nicer riding boat. Both have large cockpit space. Didn't seem like I spent more money this past summer fueling the Enticer then previous summers with the Silencer. My Silencer had a windscreen, I prefered a windshield on the 29 so I could have the Bimini top. Both boats were very low matinence to run (454's). It really sucked when it came time to change the impellor's in the 29. Had to just about stand on my head for a few hours to change one (very tight). Other then that the Enticer is a great reliable boat. Dockrocker also had a 28 and a 29, maybe he could chim in with his thoughts.

Mentalpause 12-14-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cbgenrl
I really love mine and I think its a great boat for the market price. That said, I have never been in a 28 but suspect it is a more efficient package. Ofcourse, its really nice to have twins if you can affort to feed them.

The cabin is exceptionally large for a 29 boat, we overnight about 10 nights a year and that pays dividends. The 29 is not a pure performance boat by today's definition......but that is actually why it appeals to me (room and creature comforts).

Also, I agree with 380 on the weekend package, pump out, and tri-axle. I have all 3 :D

K planes would be nice as well as external steering. And I would like to find another 1.5 mph so I can see 70 gps :cool: Good luck finding that on a stock enticer...

I have a clean 97 and it still shows well against the latest and greatest with its classic lines.

Maybe only 10 over nights - but more like 1500 hours sitting in the boat or on the dock! :evilb: :evilb:

Fast Forward 12-14-2005 08:19 PM

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I'm assuming your all seeing that mid to upper 60's range with twin 7.4 EFI? By the way are they mags?

Mentalpause 12-14-2005 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast Forward
I'm assuming your all seeing that mid to upper 60's range with twin 7.4 EFI? By the way are they mags?

Wally is just shy of 70. 7.4s are 310 horse...that is what he has. My guess with 454 mags you would see closer to 74 to 75.

cbgenrl 12-14-2005 08:36 PM

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Actually I have the carbed 7.4's. Its in the 68's GPS with ideal conditions.

Knot 4 Me 12-14-2005 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mentalpause
Wally is just shy of 70. 7.4s are 310 horse...that is what he has. My guess with 454 mags you would see closer to 74 to 75.

'97 carb motors are 300 HP. With the double-pump Holley's on Wally's motors, they are probably a massive 303 HP! :D

By the way, I hear the 29 can really haul the beads...

In all seriousness, I believe the Enticer is a great family-friendly offshore boat.

dockrocker 12-15-2005 07:37 AM

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Like Rick said, I've owned both a 280 (1999) and now a 290 (1996). The 280 is a pretty big boat, but there is no comparison to the 290. Consider that the 280 is really 27'7", the 290 is 29'1" (I believe). Add in that the 290 is probably 1500 lbs more (at least) than the 280, and it is much more of a wave crusher. We didn't get out on ours as much this year as I would've liked (though that certainly helped on the gas bill!) but I thought the 290 felt much bigger than the 280. "Enticer" is a pretty stupid name, though. ;)

Dislikes - well, my 290 is used, so there are some things I'm trying to get caught up on, maintenance-wise. In terms of design, it has the crappy Faria guages. I'll never understand why PQ (and others) use this stuff - just raise the price $500 and put in Gaffrigs or Livorsi and call it done.

The cabin door is not a great design, but I think its more to do with crappy hardware (sliders) than with the general design. Definitely not designed to be maintenance-friendly, though I don't know of any boat that really is, in this area.

Cockpit on the 290 is BIG! Big enough to put a pedestal table in front of the bench. Mine is so equipped, you can put the table in the cabin or on cockpit. Lots of stowage (a PQ hallmark). I have the weekender package, fridge, micro, sink, porta-pottie with pump-out, all pretty standard. After 10 years my cockpit vinyl is in OK condition, cabin looks great.

Engine access is tight, but what 29 footer with twins is going to give you sit down room to wrench? Not going to happen. I'm not a fan of PQ's rigging, it can be a little sloppy under the hatch but it is OK for a production builder.

All in all, we like the combination of room and performance (and windshield) that PQ offered. Let me know if you're looking in a couple years, I might be ready to move on mine (and by then, I'll have all of my little projects done :) ).

Mentalpause 12-15-2005 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dockrocker
The cabin door is not a great design, but I think its more to do with crappy hardware (sliders) than with the general design. Definitely not designed to be maintenance-friendly, though I don't know of any boat that really is, in this area.

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I do - a boat that the cabin door works without maintanance. I had 450 hours of beat the snot out of my 2000 dominator in LOTO and the door slides as easy now as it did when it was new.

Fast Forward 12-15-2005 09:19 PM

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I know finding one for sale never seems to be an issue. Now a nice one may be another story! I would guess that PQ built more 29's than any other model with the 26 at a close 2nd. My problem is it's not the eye candy type of boat I want, but for someone with a family it's about the only thing at a decent price in a go fast that offers ample room to move around. As well as a good dry ride. So based on the replies it sounds like the 310 or 300 hp 454 were the most common.

Mentalpause 12-15-2005 09:32 PM

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29 is one of my favorite PQs. I bought a 27 in 1998 and later that fall they came out with a special in 29s with twin 7.4s at a huge discounted price. At that time they thought they were going to retire that hull because they were working on the 28 and 30. We know what happened to the 30.

I think they found out they did not want to retire the 29 - it was way too good to do that.

cbgenrl 12-16-2005 06:54 AM

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So far I have had no problems with my cabin door.

PWRQWST 12-16-2005 09:00 AM

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I never had issues with my 29's door but the 38 could slide a little better.

Dave98 12-16-2005 11:14 AM

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29 is one of my favorite PQs. I bought a 27 in 1998 and later that fall they came out with a special in 29s with twin 7.4s at a huge discounted price. At that time they thought they were going to retire that hull because they were working on the 28 and 30. We know what happened to the 30.
What happened to the 30 footer? Is it the Revenge? Is there any difference (other than 1 foot) between the 29 and the 30?

cbgenrl 12-16-2005 12:21 PM

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Over all length difference is less then a foot. The 30 is a stepped hull, but as I understand it PQ had lots of problems with the first design. They finally scrapped it and started over but the process took a few years. They spent a lot of time finding out what didn't work before they made your hull.

When I looked at them the cockpit seemed smaller then the 29, I think more room when to the engine compartment on the revenge.

Mentalpause 12-16-2005 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PWRQWST
I never had issues with my 29's door but the 38 could slide a little better.

Get rid of that stinken door and drop the weight.

And go buy that backup pair of SC's that you heard about tonight. That way while the current ones are being rebuilt you will have another set to drop in :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

Mentalpause 12-16-2005 10:25 PM

Re: 29 Enticer Owners
 

Originally Posted by cbgenrl
Over all length difference is less then a foot. The 30 is a stepped hull, but as I understand it PQ had lots of problems with the first design. They finally scrapped it and started over but the process took a few years. They spent a lot of time finding out what didn't work before they made your hull.

When I looked at them the cockpit seemed smaller then the 29, I think more room when to the engine compartment on the revenge.

Slums on dock 3 now - your property value went down.

Knot 4 Me 12-17-2005 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentalpause
Slums on dock 3 now - your property value went down.

Can't hang around and drink but can go home and toss chit out on the internet. It is well after midnight and we just got home. Wally, Dave, Boody, etc. are still out.

Mentalpause 12-17-2005 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
Can't hang around and drink but can go home and toss chit out on the internet. It is well after midnight and we just got home. Wally, Dave, Boody, etc. are still out.

I know I feel better than you today. Plus I have another Xmas party to go to with Colette this afternoon, so I had to behave last night. Now I am glad I did.

I am going to run out to Clinton to see if they have any 2 stroke oil - want to go measure the walkway?

I'll call in a bit.

RJBBC 12-17-2005 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
Can't hang around and drink but can go home and toss chit out on the internet. It is well after midnight and we just got home. Wally, Dave, Boody, etc. are still out.

Wow :eek: Had a good time last night. I would like to thank Rich and Jim for putting it together.
Rob

rainorshine 12-18-2005 10:17 AM

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Hills and I had a great time also. Its nice to finally meet Jim P.'s wife, and to see people I haven't since August. So, where are we going to congregate in January? :drink:

Mentalpause 12-18-2005 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rainorshine
Hills and I had a great time also. Its nice to finally meet Jim P.'s wife, and to see people I haven't since August. So, where are we going to congregate in January? :drink:

Who's going to Chicago Boat show - 4 weeks from yesterday.

PWRQWST 12-18-2005 11:20 AM

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Oh I'm sure I'll br there :D

Mentalpause 12-18-2005 11:51 AM

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Saturday I assume - let's hope the weather is not like last year.

Knot 4 Me 12-18-2005 12:59 PM

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I'm in for Chicago. Pizza at Cemeno's afterwards?
http://www.cityofjoliet.com/business/cemenospizza.htm

h2owarrior 12-22-2005 03:38 PM

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I owned a 1994 290 for 7 years. Best boat I ever owned. It was reliable and worked great for the family for over nights etc. I wish I still owned it.

We had our boat decked out, 454 Mag MPI's, inverter, microwave, refirgerator, etc. The boat worked great. The only problem we had was the alternators on the engines went bad after 3 hours. Other than that, the boat was great.

I think the newer 290's are quite a bit cheaper than the boat we bought. We were looking at a Formula when we bought our first PQ, a 270. Since 1997, I think the boats have become much cheaper in fit and finish and quality of equipment. Faria gaugues are an example. Our boat had blue line VDO gauges. Not the best, but higher level than the Faria.

Overall the boat is great. It handled the twin 454's with no problem, but that was as much as that hull can really handle. It would run in the mid 60's with that power, and that worked great for us.


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