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sandman 09-07-2008 09:26 AM

new best-new prop
 
I just ran the new hydromotive quad 4-X 24P on my 93 270 laser. I'd heard these older quests liked bow lifters and mine did as well. The boat has a warmed over carbed 502. I did a full roller conversion with hyd. roller, 950 carb, dart single plane, and upgraded from the old log manifolds to the newer merc exhaust with some porting.
I went 64.5 MPH GPS@ 5400 rpm with 2 on board and 2/3 full tank. I tried a 23P rev 4 and went 63.4 MPH @5300. I had a mirage +25P go 61.2MPH@4600RPM. It kept blowing out when I started to trim up very much.
I learned the 4 blade bow lifters really need to be trimmed up to get their full benefit. Given my RPM, I think I need to go up to a 25 or 26P to get the Rs back down. I do plan on lapping whatever I get so I need to factor that in with the next prop.
Tom

WBG28PQ 09-07-2008 11:10 AM

most guys on here with your boat and the 28 are running a stock 24 bravo or a labbed 26 with your hp set up I just went with a stock 26 bravo liked it better cruse 4k is 49 on gps 3 people and 3,8 to 1 /2 fuel Ill have it labbed this winter lost a few rpms up top 5k and speed was 67 thats with stock power 496 / 425 hp 28 silencer) _ I v not tryed the hydros friends have and been happy I just like the brovo s my 2 cents

Fast Forward 09-07-2008 02:21 PM

Bought the new Hydro for my 26 and love it! Gained a little on top end at about 200rpm less the Mirage plus. I've tried the bravo, and bravo labbed, mirage and mirage plus. By far the Hydro is it!!

sandman 09-07-2008 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by WBG28PQ (Post 2677210)
most guys on here with your boat and the 28 are running a stock 24 bravo or a labbed 26 with your hp set up I just went with a stock 26 bravo liked it better cruse 4k is 49 on gps 3 people and 3,8 to 1 /2 fuel Ill have it labbed this winter lost a few rpms up top 5k and speed was 67 thats with stock power 496 / 425 hp 28 silencer) _ I v not tryed the hydros friends have and been happy I just like the brovo s my 2 cents

Does your 28 have the newer hull? It seems like these old quests are built well, but need HP to run decent numbers. It was very windy that day(20-25MPH winds). I got better numbers running with the wind despite going upstream.( which usually kills 1-2MPH for me.)
I should have trimmed up even more. I never did reach its limit. The prop had incredible midrange acceleration. It seemed like 5000RPM came up so quick. With lapping in mind, I think I may jump to a 26P. The only concern I have is it was 68 degrees out. A 90-95 degree day is going to kill HP.
Tom

sandman 09-07-2008 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Fast Forward (Post 2677346)
Bought the new Hydro for my 26 and love it! Gained a little on top end at about 200rpm less the Mirage plus. I've tried the bravo, and bravo labbed, mirage and mirage plus. By far the Hydro is it!!

I have to thank you for your input. Your previous post on prop testing convinced me to go with the hydro-x! I was going to go with the rev 4. I believe your assessments were spot on.
Tom

Fast Forward 09-07-2008 07:52 PM

I'm spinning a 24p with a stock 454 mag efi. I was a little reluctant to spin anything that large but they assured me I would be fine as with less cupping than the mirage or bravo I'd be able to spin it. I'd say a 26 would be a great place to start.

pkspx 09-08-2008 08:38 AM

plus not to mention the sound of a prop.... sounds evil when running it! You guys also need to look into your X dimensions, Im running an IMCO 2" shorty and getting 5-7mph gain all the way around power band. Also have the hydromotive quad 4-X 24P cupped. My best speed on my 270 laser was 69.6 on Garmin. Running Gellner around 550hp.

sandman 09-08-2008 10:04 AM

I thought you were spinning a 23? It just goes to show you there is no substitue for real world experience. Due to the design of theses props, it seems a step up in pitch over a mirage is the way to go despite being a 4 blade.

Fast Forward 09-08-2008 03:40 PM

Your correct I am spinning a 23 , my error. Still I figured I should have been spinning a 22 or a 21p in the four blade. Now I just need to get out in a little chop and air out the hull a bit and see what kind of numbers we get. But I won't hold my breath on that due to being such a lousy summer.

sandman 09-09-2008 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by pkspx (Post 2678105)
plus not to mention the sound of a prop.... sounds evil when running it! You guys also need to look into your X dimensions, Im running an IMCO 2" shorty and getting 5-7mph gain all the way around power band. Also have the hydromotive quad 4-X 24P cupped. My best speed on my 270 laser was 69.6 on Garmin. Running Gellner around 550hp.

I was debating on buying your IMCO shorty due to the gains you posted. That is very impressive. I know yours is also a older quest. I'm betting the X is pretty close on all these older boats.
Your speed vs mine on the same prop is interesting. What RPM was that at? Are you slipping less than me? I just sent back the 24 for a 26P. I hope to eek out another 1-2 MPH.
Tom

WBG28PQ 09-10-2008 07:37 PM

forgot to mention I m running a newer 03 with the step bottom the bravo I have is a 15.25 26p stock gonna have it labbed up this off season I wasnt lookn for top speed with the change just wanted a better cruze speed at 4k 48 is gps speed ( buddy has a 25 hydro 4 blade im gona try before i send it out

Fast Forward 09-13-2008 07:18 AM

Just make sure you guys are trying the QV1-X prop and not the older version as they are completely different.

sandman 09-13-2008 03:54 PM

Well I couldn't test the 26P due to rain. Hopefully, I can hit it next weekend.
Tom

Fast Forward 09-14-2008 09:42 AM

Right there with you..Been raing for 3 days now.On the up side the rivers up again.

Shawn D 09-14-2008 09:56 AM

Yeah the Rain Sux. I'ld love 2-3 more rides. wait this is about props- that's right a couple more rides to test the props:D

Fast Forward 09-17-2008 03:45 PM

What size and model are you testing??

Shawn D 09-17-2008 07:33 PM

I was just commenting on Sunday's Rain.
I have 65 hours of testing a pair Bravo 1 28p's.
But a few more hours would be good before the weather shuts us down.

This is a great thread on Props though, I thinking about labbing them.

mac1872 09-06-2010 01:32 PM

motor and prop help on a pq 270
 
Need help with some prop and motor advice. I have a 93 powerquest 270 with a 420 merc in it. the motor I was told was just rebuilt and now has 71 hours on by the meter. also have been trying to prop the boat. does any one know what I should be turning this motor out to, also bought a hyromotive quad 4 23p for it not the x but the standard. The boat turn 4750 rpm at 52.8 mph. Why so slow? I know opening up the motor on the old quests is the way to go faster but just trying to dial in what I have first. any help at all would be great

Powerquest_Baby!! 09-10-2010 03:57 PM

Youve got the same prop I do Quad IV 23P which is a stern lifting prop (our conventional hulls need a bow lifting prop)...You need to try a Quad IV X (which the bow lifting prop) or a mirage or a Bravo--all are bow lifting and should get you more speed.

mac1872 10-10-2010 10:11 AM

ran the bravo
 
well i got 55 flat at 4800r's out of a bravo 1 24p. Wondering if a 3 blade mirage 23p would be a better fit for the boat. think the hydro quad 4 x would be a better run?

Powerquest_Baby!! 10-22-2010 04:04 PM

You wil always get the best top speed with a 3 blade prop. I went from a 23 P Hydro QIV (not the X model) which had me at 4600 RPM to a 23P Mirage + and went all the way to 5100 RPM..Top speed increased 6 MPH! You may want to give that a shot.


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