Now aj
how did you find that,what were you looking for?

You got it!!:drink:

Verbi what did you do with the dodge.............:D. My father is selling his Diesel to buy the new escalade suv and I want to buy it but getting boned on the price bad, don't want to lose that much cash, better in the fuel tank:eek:

I still have the Dodge, not worth much as far as trade in value goes....:mad:
Before I give it away I will run the miles through it going to work!! (it will be better on gas than the F450 is on fuel)

Well boys, I'm probably the most well known member on sunsation... apparently I hurt Joe's feelings and so all of his cronies wana hang me now lol
Darn

Where did you do all the feelings crushing??
I should go over and do some reading!!

A guy posted up wanted info on the 288, he got a barage of "killer offshore performance" "crushes waves" "amazing ride even in the toughest seas", some of these guys even go as far to say that 288's are "roomy"(hit that bong again bro)... as to be expected. I felt he was misled somewhat by the posts so I pm'd him telling him that I wouldn't recommend a 288 for those prices bc honestly they are lighter boats and ride on top of the water bouncing around more and they have limited space. He called Joe @ Sunsation and so Joe put up a thread claiming I said they made a junk boat and that I bashed their "build integrity" (i didn't) bla bla bla...
So they start in on the personal attacks which what do I care? I'll just sling em back... well when I do it they start in with the "class act" bla bla bla you know the drill. Funny thing is that even some of their own members pm me saying how over the top others are... obviously nothing can be said tho bc they'll get run off too Lmao
Thank god for general discussion... all this class act stuff is making me sick

AJ is that here on the Sunny forum or the manufacturers site??

Never mind....I found it!!

What a joke.....

well I'm the new owner of 2004 Lavey Craft 29' Nuera MCOB, 525, XR drive and 140hrs. I still want to cut a hole in a 300 and see how it turns out. But in the mean time I still miss my 260.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...32/lavey29.jpg[/QUOTE]

Nice boat bert! I like the graphics a lot... laveycraft makes a nice boat I almost bought a 26 NuEra Laveycraft but the deal didn't pan out and I ended up with my PQ... let's see some more pics

nice boat Bert,enjoy and safe boating!:boat:

Wow, that is one very sharp looking boat!!
Congrats.

"killer offshore performance"? No. "crushes waves"? No. "amazing ride even in the toughest seas"? No. For it's size and weight, it is a good lake and river boat. When things get nasty, you have to be up on the wheel and throttle. You are not going beat the water back with the boat. But with adequate seat time you can get around in some mid-sized water OK. "roomy"? No. The 288 and 32 Dominator and S/SS/SSR/XRT all have the same cockpit (with the exception of the 32 S/SS/SSR/XRT having more freeboard) and it is tight. That was always our biggest gripe to Wayne and Joe. Make the cockpits bigger. Which they have finally done on the F-4 and now 36. Yes, some of the folks on Sunny's site get a bit overzealous with facts and their defense of the product. It is their "home" though so you have to expect some of that behavior. Joe's rub was that you PM'd someone on their site to push another manufacture's product. No harm in giving an educated opinion but pushing another product should not have been done through their site. Did they ban you? I see they deleted the threads including the silly "AJ must go" or whatever it was titled thread. In any event, one would hope most educated people will seek out opinions on a product through sources other than just the manufacture's forum. One would also hope they would throw out the overly positive and overly negative reviews and focus on the middle ground.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-dream-ii.html


it seems like aj is not the only one with that opinion

alot of people with pom poms over on the sunny site.

I have no dog in this fight but.....I got to read most of the thread before it was locked down and I was shocked to find how sensitive some of the Sunny people were with this whole fiascal.
Aj sent a message through the PM system, read PRIVATE MESSAGE, ....and then the **** hits the fan because of it????
Come on now, what a load of crap!!
No negative comments were put out for everyone to see and to have the owners feathers ruffled, but a simple PM to the fella in question to look at different models of boats as well.......now really what is wrong with that??
No one was luring a little boy away from a potential sale with a bag of candy!
For a bunch of grown up men to attack like that is pretty ridiculous......
I personally looked at a 288 Sunny before I bought my 280 Silencer and can say without a doubt there are differences between the two boats.......so if I point them out that makes me a bad guy???? .......and even for doing it privately instead of on the open forums??
Say whatever you want, defend however you want, the whole thing of the Sunsation owner crying foul like a little kid stinks hard of B.S.!!!
Sensitive bunch!!
This whole thing was blown out of proportion and I dont give a damn what they say about it!!

That is true but I guess the ONLY difference here is that it was discussed on OSO and not on the SUNSATION owned forum!?

yep ,you are correct

yep.I asked one question on that thread and deleted pretty fast,

the question was,,why is it wrong for aj to share his opinion but ok for sunny guys to bash PQ,,even joe took a stab at pq,

It's that kind of crap that really makes me shake my head and wonder wtf???
Just another reason to never go over there and visit I guess......problem solved!!

PS: I will still let my buddy CampionChase tie up to me this summer in his new to him 32 Sunsation!!

Simple...just way too much ego at times,......would be my thought.

Because PQ sucks. :party-smiley-004: Buy a Pantera or AT or PowerPlay!!! :lolhit:

Always liked the 280 Silencer. My favorite PQ besides the 300.

Yes, the situation could have been handled better by Sunsation and the regular forum members IMO.

You couldn't send us a PM on this matter (abuse)?????
Attack on the integrity of Powerquest?????


Let the flaming beging!!! :party-smiley-004:

Knot 4 Me: just checked and they didn't delete my account but looks like it won't accept posts or messages, and they deleted my inbox (i had messages in there I would have liked to keep for my own info) but oh well. The thing about the site is that if you don't own or haven't owned a.sunsation they will take turns taking stabs at you and when you rake a jab back they all cry wolf and ruin the thread. Hell, our FIRST thread was a vid of 288KIDs new boat and we all know how they responded to that 288KID even had members say stuff to him on the lake.
Lastly, I didn't say the 288's "rode like chit" I stated that there are other boats in that class that do it better, they may be 2-3 mph slower top end with the same power, but 'wet dream II' was being misled in my opinion about the rough water ride by some of the members, and I know a lot of people buy boats without testing them this year so I PMd him giving him my take and at the end told him to at least ride in one and check out its dimensions before buying.
Could I have worded it a little better? Maybe I could have, but after Joe responded that way I'm glad I didn't. It showed what happens when you're not telling them what a great guy and 'class act' he is. Other members went out of their way to attack me first thing (like they usually do) such as Dominator Scott, Jupiter... Scott even asked if I wanted to come over and he'd give me his address lol- I declined and said i'd meet him for a drink he took another shot at me and said he had no interested in meeting me or anything I had to say. Then why offer in the first place?? Haha

I don't hold a grudge against any of those guys they are going to be who they are going to be and whatever, its not going to stop me from going to LSC or from any other places/events... if they continue to have a problem they can consult me in person, they all know what my boat looks like.
Good boating to you!

:lolhit: hahaha Verbi

Hey I made a joke on this the Powerquest forum and got PM'd almost imediately by Sunsation for a joke and an obvious one at that if you were paying attention...

And all I can say is that our next boat most likely would have been a Sunsation until now and knowing how they act on some things. The ONLY reason we would even consider a Sunsation next is the dealer that we deal with and our relationship with them.

Chad,

You are correct I did reply to your post prematurely as I missed where you followed it up with the joke part.

I truly am sorry for jumping the gun.

Chris

Hey Chris

stop by on the PQ site,,where always here for a good time...

just to give you a heads up,Kid288 likes to stop by as well:eek:

dude you just boat a smokin boat,,even says it on the back.

whats this next boat chit?

that sounds like a threat!:lolhit:

hell, look at the posts..288kid is a regular here and everyone doesn't jump on his back for the stuff said. its all in good fun. we all have our personal favorite boats. i even looked at the 25 sunny before i bought my PQ Legend but there is a MASSIVE difference in size.

Sounds like a jab to me tom! You'll have to get back at him by selling me your new 300 even cheaper than you sold your 03 for! :p

You can find good and bad in all boats, period. The key is to have civil and informed discussion and not get bent out of shape when someone's opinion differs from yours or even the majority. I hate that all of this stuff gets so personal when in the end it means poo to a tree.

hey you dont own a PQ anymore??

get the phuck out here!!!!!!!!!!!!!


just kidding:drink:

Boat is enroute from Lavey's Factory should be here on Saturday, I'll take a bunch then. This from today right before they left for TX.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...aveycraft2.jpg

+1

like I always say,,wont matter in 50 years,,at least not to me

Agreed Apples and Oranges

Tom where will you be in 50 yrs????:eek:

wont matter

Powerquest tried stealing the Powerplay name in the 80's. :party-smiley-004:

Does that count as trash talk???

Lol I was under the impression Powerquest had 'powerplay' before powerplay boats was created... then powerplay tried to sue PQ?