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Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 08:44 AM

Im Gonna Need Good TABS!
 
My 280 is getting Procharged as we speak and Im gonna need some sort of performance trim tabs. K planes are Expencive. but if i gotta get em i gotta get em. Is there any other brand that is just as good and maybe a little cheaper. Ill prob get 16 to 18" tabs. I think that will be sufficent for a 280. Any advice/input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

verbi69 03-28-2012 08:53 AM

Lucky bugger!!
Good luck with the new power!

Maybe search the classifieds for used stuff....

dwinters321 03-28-2012 10:18 AM

you will also need to get a new prop. I just rec'd mine from BBlades and it looks great. I got a 26 pitch labbed for PQ hull. I am trying to sneak out of work early today to run it down to the lake and test it out.

I would highly recommend bblades though

AJ POWERPLAY 03-28-2012 11:54 AM

EddieMarine makes a K plane replacement that you can have black or any color you want... And they are a little cheaper but still pricey

Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by dwinters321 (Post 3650895)
you will also need to get a new prop. I just rec'd mine from BBlades and it looks great. I got a 26 pitch labbed for PQ hull. I am trying to sneak out of work early today to run it down to the lake and test it out.

I would highly recommend bblades though

got that coverd too. Brett is doing the rent a prop program with me to test diferent sizes to see what i need. Were gonna start with a 32p. I am running a 26p rt now. that i will have for sale if ya know anyone interested.

Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 02:17 PM

I saw the Eddie Marine ones. Thay look nice. I guess it wouldnt hurt to go with the 23" thay have. over kill isnt a bad thing i dont think.

DiamondPerformance 03-28-2012 02:35 PM

http://www.diamondperformanceparts.com/home.php?cat=263

Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by DiamondPerformance (Post 3651081)

I like the Large tabs at the top of the list. IM going to PM you so we can talk business. Thanks.

Sydwayz 03-28-2012 03:34 PM

Do you have hydraulic steering?

Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3651119)
Do you have hydraulic steering?

I wish. Thats next on the list. Ill have single ram by mid summer if not sooner.

dwinters321 03-28-2012 03:54 PM

Just got back from the lake (aka hurricane) and the new prop did very well. It was tough to judge top speed because there was so much chop and wind blowing me around.

I went from a 24 pitch to a 26 pitch labbed. I gained in hole-shot which surprised me and gained 2mph top end. I suspect the top end will be higher on a calmer day. I still feel like I need more trim to get the boat out of the water but end up shooting a massive rooster tail. I am still looking for a 1" spacer to get more prop in the water.

Whichever prop you end up with make sure you have Brett lab it.

Josh LaFountain 03-28-2012 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by dwinters321 (Post 3651135)
Just got back from the lake (aka hurricane) and the new prop did very well. It was tough to judge top speed because there was so much chop and wind blowing me around.

I went from a 24 pitch to a 26 pitch labbed. I gained in hole-shot which surprised me and gained 2mph top end. I suspect the top end will be higher on a calmer day. I still feel like I need more trim to get the boat out of the water but end up shooting a massive rooster tail. I am still looking for a 1" spacer to get more prop in the water.

Whichever prop you end up with make sure you have Brett lab it.

I just got off the phone with him. Its in the worx.

And I have a 1 inch spacer on my drive. What kind of numbers are you seeing. Im running a stock 26p B1 with the spacer. with a stock 502 MPI with CMI headers. turning 5100 rpm at 67mph GPS.

Sydwayz 03-28-2012 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3651128)
I wish. Thats next on the list. Ill have single ram by mid summer if not sooner.

Go with steering before tabs. The hull is going to handle how the hull is going to handle, at any speed. If you need tabs to adjust how the boat is running in rough water or with a cross wind, you are not going to be at the new breakneck speeds your forced induction is taking you to. If you end up with chinewalking or a hop after forced induction, you shouldn't be trying to fix that with tabs anyhow.

Do you have Bennet Trim Tabs on the boat now? If so, you can upgrade to longer plates. http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/
BTT are no where near as strong as K-planes, but they are well made; probably best light duty tab out there.

I don't know what kind of power you are going to have or which motor you are supercharging, but anything with forced induction should have hydrauilic steering.

specialk 03-28-2012 08:25 PM

what size procharger are you doing? i would think you should be starting with a 28p bravo. 32 is pretty large. best overall prop is my 28. i get great cruising with my 26 5 blade but less top end. i think i have a conservative 550hp. you may need to have whipple program your computer to make up for fuel. cant be to lean otherwise you burn it up and cant be to rich otherwise you wash out the cylinders with fuel. i still have the short tabs. i have been keeping en eye out for longer plates but surviving fine without them. i have a single ram latham assist steering. that is a must! good luck with the upgrade.

jbraun2828 03-28-2012 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3651172)
Go with steering before tabs. The hull is going to handle how the hull is going to handle, at any speed. If you need tabs to adjust how the boat is running in rough water or with a cross wind, you are not going to be at the new breakneck speeds your forced induction is taking you to. If you end up with chinewalking or a hop after forced induction, you shouldn't be trying to fix that with tabs anyhow.

Do you have Bennet Trim Tabs on the boat now? If so, you can upgrade to longer plates. http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/
BTT are no where near as strong as K-planes, but they are well made; probably best light duty tab out there.

I don't know what kind of power you are going to have or which motor you are supercharging, but anything with forced induction should have hydrauilic steering.

+1. steering is way more important than tabs in my opinion. I have 280's on my boat and hardly ever use them unless its real rough. Even then they don't make a huge difference other than slow me down. I may be interested in your prop if it's a stock 4 blade

Josh LaFountain 03-29-2012 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3651172)
Go with steering before tabs. The hull is going to handle how the hull is going to handle, at any speed. If you need tabs to adjust how the boat is running in rough water or with a cross wind, you are not going to be at the new breakneck speeds your forced induction is taking you to. If you end up with chinewalking or a hop after forced induction, you shouldn't be trying to fix that with tabs anyhow.

Do you have Bennet Trim Tabs on the boat now? If so, you can upgrade to longer plates. http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/
BTT are no where near as strong as K-planes, but they are well made; probably best light duty tab out there.

I don't know what kind of power you are going to have or which motor you are supercharging, but anything with forced induction should have hydrauilic steering.

I have the stock dual ram tabs the boat came with. thay dont work rt now. I Think the pumps bad. Ive checked everything else. Steering is more affordable than tabs so im fine with that first and tabs later. LOL.

Josh LaFountain 03-29-2012 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by specialk (Post 3651304)
what size procharger are you doing? i would think you should be starting with a 28p bravo. 32 is pretty large. best overall prop is my 28. i get great cruising with my 26 5 blade but less top end. i think i have a conservative 550hp. you may need to have whipple program your computer to make up for fuel. cant be to lean otherwise you burn it up and cant be to rich otherwise you wash out the cylinders with fuel. i still have the short tabs. i have been keeping en eye out for longer plates but surviving fine without them. i have a single ram latham assist steering. that is a must! good luck with the upgrade.

Its a M-1sc. I would blow a 28 out with a procharger. Rt now im turning that 26p Bravo at 5100 at 67 gps. Before I bought the procharger I was talking to Brett about the 28. He was going to lab it for me and that would have been the perfect prop for me. So He is thinking we need to start with a 32 and see where im at and go from there. The computer got sent off the same day i payed for the procharger. Mark ad Precision marine is doing it. Hes one of the best. What did you pay for your Latham and where did you get it?

Knot 4 Me 03-29-2012 02:39 PM

IMCO makes a nice system. I'd go full to the helm if you can swing it.

Josh LaFountain 03-29-2012 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3651809)
IMCO makes a nice system. I'd go full to the helm if you can swing it.

Ive looked at them and have talked to a few dealers about different brands. IMCO are very nice. = very expencive. lol. Im prob gonna go with the mayfair. It seems to be the most affordable. Im not building a race boat. Just a bolt on weekend toy with some balls under the hatch.

rchevelle71 03-29-2012 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3651541)
I have the stock dual ram tabs the boat came with. thay dont work rt now. I Think the pumps bad. Ive checked everything else. Steering is more affordable than tabs so im fine with that first and tabs later. LOL.

If they are Bennett's, give their tech line a call, they will walk you through troubleshooting, and if it is the pump, repair for a very fair price, sometimes even free. I have NEVER been charged by them for a defective replacement part. Called them a few times, and since they are local to me, picked up the parts in person, owner of the company came down to the lobby, and personally handed me the part. Best customer service in the industry. BTW, here is a pic of my tabs, dual bennett rams, on some modified K-plane style tabs:evilb:

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/...inder/new3.jpg

bert4332 03-29-2012 09:54 PM

Not sure on the price, give them a call

http://performancehydraulics.net/products.htm

Josh LaFountain 03-30-2012 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3651831)
If they are Bennett's, give their tech line a call, they will walk you through troubleshooting, and if it is the pump, repair for a very fair price, sometimes even free. I have NEVER been charged by them for a defective replacement part. Called them a few times, and since they are local to me, picked up the parts in person, owner of the company came down to the lobby, and personally handed me the part. Best customer service in the industry. BTW, here is a pic of my tabs, dual bennett rams, on some modified K-plane style tabs:evilb:

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/...inder/new3.jpg

Thoes are not what i got. Mine are some ****ty looking stainless sheet metal ones.

jbraun2828 03-30-2012 09:13 AM

I just put the mayfair system on my boat. It was only a couple hundred cheaper than imco but you don't have to drill and tap the top cap with the mayfair. As far as tabs, there's always some for sale in the swap shop for a fraction of the cost new. Good luck with your new set up , I'm sure its going to really wake up your boat.

JETTDOGG 03-30-2012 10:54 AM

Boat leveler makes a decent dual ram performce set -3/16" stainless

rchevelle71 03-30-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3652296)
Thoes are not what i got. Mine are some ****ty looking stainless sheet metal ones.

Yeah,

I got lucky and found these already modified to accept the bennett rams

Knot 4 Me 03-30-2012 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3652296)
Thoes are not what i got. Mine are some ****ty looking stainless sheet metal ones.

Do your rams look like the ones above or do they have exposed hydraulic hoses that route through the hull? If your rams have external hoses then they are Boat Leveler tabs. I believe PQ used Boat Leveler tabs.

http://www.insta-trim.com/

Josh LaFountain 03-30-2012 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by JETTDOGG (Post 3652490)
Boat leveler makes a decent dual ram performce set -3/16" stainless

Thats what mine are. Boat Leveler dual ram. but thay dont work rt now. should i just get them fixed and see how it does and spend my money on steering??? I think so!

KEPP 03-30-2012 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3650829)
My 280 is getting Procharged as we speak and Im gonna need some sort of performance trim tabs. K planes are Expencive. but if i gotta get em i gotta get em. Is there any other brand that is just as good and maybe a little cheaper. Ill prob get 16 to 18" tabs. I think that will be sufficent for a 280. Any advice/input is greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

Here's some options http://www.keitheickert.com/c-884-trim-tab-kits.aspx

pqjack 03-30-2012 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3652562)
Do your rams look like the ones above or do they have exposed hydraulic hoses that route through the hull? If your rams have external hoses then they are Boat Leveler tabs. I believe PQ used Boat Leveler tabs.

http://www.insta-trim.com/

mine are Boat levelers also...they are black and almost 5/16 '' thick....they work well...

sonicss42 03-30-2012 04:25 PM

Be sure to research the length of tab you are going to use. I believe there is recommended length of tab in relation to hull length. Installing too long a tab and you could be asking for a serious stuffing situation. I'm sure some experienced boat racers could explain it better. Good luck on the upgrades. Sounds like your in for some fun.

Josh LaFountain 04-02-2012 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by pqjack (Post 3652643)
mine are Boat levelers also...they are black and almost 5/16 '' thick....they work well...

Mine also. Thay are black, dual ram, about 12" long bout 10" wide. not sure if thay are alum or stainless but thay are that thick also. I guess ill get them working and see how thay do and just buy steering instead.

pqjack 04-02-2012 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3654114)
Mine also. Thay are black, dual ram, about 12" long bout 10" wide. not sure if thay are alum or stainless but thay are that thick also. I guess ill get them working and see how thay do and just buy steering instead.

i think you'll like them...go with steering first...jmo

egbolt 04-02-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3654114)
Mine also. Thay are black, dual ram, about 12" long bout 10" wide. not sure if thay are alum or stainless but thay are that thick also. I guess ill get them working and see how thay do and just buy steering instead.

Josh,
The prop you are going to sell is B1, RH 26 if so I may be interested what price are you asking

dwinters321 05-06-2012 02:46 PM

any updates on this? have you had it out to test it?

drforeman77 05-06-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by dwinters321 (Post 3680600)
any updates on this? Have you had it out to test it?

+1

Pete280 05-06-2012 08:28 PM

I had 12" boat levelers on my 280, I ordered 16" plates from them nd reused everything else, it was like $350 or something, the 280 chine walks and I always thought it needed some tab, I thought the 16" helped

Jplanes 05-07-2012 05:40 PM

I've seen pics! :whistle:


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