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sea urchin 08-27-2012 12:12 PM

280 silencer or 29 enticer
 
I have been milling around these 2 boats for awhile
I have had a 2000 26 and a 1998 27
I loved the 27 with the 502 motor, had great speed and handling, I prefer the powerquest over other similar boats due to the amount of cockpit space, and the freeboard
they ride awesome.. my question has multiple parts

how does the 28 handle with the step hull
also prefer this to have a 502
also how reliable is this model with the 500hp efi motor
and is there a big difference in speed

as far as the 29, how well does this boat handle compared
to the 28 is it worth having the twins, other than reliability
i cant imagin getting more speed from the 29
just more cockpit and cabin space...

just looking for some insight between the 2 boats

not looking for alot of speed just want a decent ride with
a solid 65 mph

Knot 4 Me 08-27-2012 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by sea urchin (Post 3763113)
not looking for alot of speed just want a decent ride with
a solid 65 mph

29 with 330 HP 7.4's. Ton of them out there. Decent ride and upper 60's with this power.

Josh LaFountain 08-27-2012 03:18 PM

My 280 rides great. Ran 67 with the stock 502 mpi but honestly the big step on that boat makes it handle like ****. It feels dangerous at high speeds.

sea urchin 08-27-2012 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 3763260)
My 280 rides great. Ran 67 with the stock 502 mpi but honestly the big step on that boat makes it handle like ****. It feels dangerous at high speeds.

thats 1 of the reasons i was leaning a little on th 29
side,, no step, or if i could find another 27 w/502
that was in decent shape with good colors

good colors are rare in older powerquests

PROWRENCH 08-27-2012 05:06 PM

You don't like teal and pink?:lolhit:
I had a 280 and it was fun, but they do chine walk a bit. Once you go twins you'll never turn back.

AJ POWERPLAY 08-28-2012 08:16 AM

A 29 will chine walk up around 70 also if you are running 3 blade props... Going to 4 blade props seems to help a lot but you will lose a little top end. Try to find one with 454mags or 502mags

Knot 4 Me 08-28-2012 12:44 PM

454 MAG or 502 MAG would be the berries. Especially since those boats might actually have K-planes instead of Boat Leveler tabs on them. They are just hard to find compared to the 7.4L or 7.4MPI boats. I would still take a twin 7.4L 290 over a 280 with a 502. The ultimate 290 would have been one with twin 350HP 377 Scorpions.

Jplanes 08-29-2012 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3764161)
454 MAG or 502 MAG would be the berries. Especially since those boats might actually have K-planes instead of Boat Leveler tabs on them. They are just hard to find compared to the 7.4L or 7.4MPI boats. I would still take a twin 7.4L 290 over a 280 with a 502. The ultimate 290 would have been one with twin 350HP 377 Scorpions.

well, everything is always for sale for the right price! I've got a 92 with 502s (300hr range), with 280 k-planes, drives just pulled last year to replace gimble shaft and bearings, shifter lines, boots, starboard bell housing and coupler, tab censors.....actually I had about $9K worth of work in maintenance and preventative maintenance done. Yes, 90's colors, but no pink:lolhit: Don't have to sell, but since someone is looking I'd take $28K for her.
http://youtu.be/etpcNAtSk28

dockrocker 09-05-2012 11:39 PM

I've had both, a 1999 280 with a 502 and a 1996 290 with 454 MPI's (I want to say 310? each). 280 would run 65 mph on the top end, might squeak another 1-2 mph out with no gas and a nice chop. It would lightly chine walk if I had it really trimmed out, a bit of tab and it was solid. Big cockpit and maintenance with the single was the cat's azz.

The 290 felt much, much bigger and heavier - real wave crusher. It was much more tail-heavy than the 280 and maintenance was a serious pain in the ass with the engines stuffed up against the back of the bench; PQ definitely did not have a better idea there. Again the huge cockpit and big cabin. The 290 would run in the 70 mph range, so a bit faster than the 280.

If I had to choose one, I would probably go with the 280 just because I can't afford to pay someone to do the maintenance that is such a beeyotch on the Enticer. That being said, if I could find one with Mags or 502's and real K-planes, that might tip the scales the other way. In your case, I'm not sure the size increase - 280 is pretty close to the 270 in size - would be enough of an "upgrade."

Josh LaFountain 09-07-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by dockrocker (Post 3770631)
I've had both, a 1999 280 with a 502 and a 1996 290 with 454 MPI's (I want to say 310? each). 280 would run 65 mph on the top end, might squeak another 1-2 mph out with no gas and a nice chop. It would lightly chine walk if I had it really trimmed out, a bit of tab and it was solid. Big cockpit and maintenance with the single was the cat's azz.

The 290 felt much, much bigger and heavier - real wave crusher. It was much more tail-heavy than the 280 and maintenance was a serious pain in the ass with the engines stuffed up against the back of the bench; PQ definitely did not have a better idea there. Again the huge cockpit and big cabin. The 290 would run in the 70 mph range, so a bit faster than the 280.

If I had to choose one, I would probably go with the 280 just because I can't afford to pay someone to do the maintenance that is such a beeyotch on the Enticer. That being said, if I could find one with Mags or 502's and real K-planes, that might tip the scales the other way. In your case, I'm not sure the size increase - 280 is pretty close to the 270 in size - would be enough of an "upgrade."


True. The 280 is really only 27'7".

kep140 09-12-2012 09:01 PM

does anyone know how a 03 280 compares to a 272 baja.....cockpit size and cabin size....is it any bigger if at all?
will an 03 with a 496mag ho run close to 70....owner selling it says he has 68 on gps...yet to see it
thanks for any feedback

AJ POWERPLAY 09-13-2012 01:20 AM

The 272 Baja is going to be a bigger boat than the 280... It's Baja's little brother to the boss 302.
The 280/496HO speed numbers are accurate

kep140 09-13-2012 08:06 AM

I sold my 252 a few months ago which is very similar to a 272 so I am familiar with that boat, have never been able to see a 280 in person myself was just trying to get a feel if the cabin on the 280 was any better.

AJ POWERPLAY 09-13-2012 08:58 AM

Cabin in a 280 is not bad at all... But the 272 will still be a touch bigger, but slower with same power. Good head room in them though.

kep140 09-13-2012 10:23 AM

how similar is the cabin in a 280 to a 300 revenge? any one been in both? I have been in a revenge....awsome cabin space

AJ POWERPLAY 09-13-2012 10:41 AM

PROWRENCH can answer that one... He's had both... wish i had his money!! :eekdrop:

PROWRENCH 09-13-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by kep140 (Post 3776046)
how similar is the cabin in a 280 to a 300 revenge? any one been in both? I have been in a revenge....awsome cabin space

V-berth in the 300 is probably a foot longer. Headroom seems about the same. There was more storage in the 280, but I have the weekender pkg in the 300, so it takes up that space.

PQ29 09-13-2012 01:04 PM

I'm also looking at 272/275's and 280 silencers. I figured the cockpit would be bigger on the PQ? Is it noticeably bigger or inches?


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3775858)
The 272 Baja is going to be a bigger boat than the 280... It's Baja's little brother to the boss 302.
The 280/496HO speed numbers are accurate


Josh LaFountain 09-13-2012 02:14 PM

All the room in a 280 is in the cockpit. Thay are very spacious. Lots of room to walk around amd your knees wont be burried in the dash or the bolster if your in the back. Buddy of mine has a 272. The 272 has more room in the cabin bit less in the cockpit. Just depends on if your gonna drive your boat or lay in the cabin. Lol. Id rather have my 280. But then again everyone knows im not a baja man. So my opinion is 100% bias. When i was shopping baja wasnt even on my "to look at" list. I looked at 27 and 29 fountains.powerquest, Checkmate, eliminator, and nordic. Thoes were the best built boats in my price range. Got a steal on my 280 so thats what i went with after having 2 fountain owners back out on me.

kep140 09-13-2012 02:18 PM

propwrench....how similar or what are the differences in the cockpit on the 280 vs revenge? besides the obvious gunwale/freeboard depth/height.

PROWRENCH 09-13-2012 04:11 PM

The cockpit is very similar in size, it may be the same just the 280 is shallower. The setup is nearly identical except for the switch panel.
If you're considering a 300, go that route. No camparison in handling.

eddie 09-13-2012 04:26 PM

I just listed a very nice 280 if I can help out at all just let me know.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o47462-en.html

PQ29 09-13-2012 06:25 PM

Right now it doesn't seem many 29 or 30's are out there for sale...


Originally Posted by PROWRENCH (Post 3776313)
The cockpit is very similar in size, it may be the same just the 280 is shallower. The setup is nearly identical except for the switch panel.
If you're considering a 300, go that route. No camparison in handling.


kep140 09-13-2012 07:55 PM

propwrench, I am very very seriously considering drippinwetII's 300 that boat is great ride great size and going 90 in a 300 revenge its hard not to smile ear to ear.....my biggest stumbling factor is telling myself the fuel useage is not going to put me in the poor house lol just for refrence and piece of mind what kind of fuel useage do you see in the same boat with 496's? The 280 is going use half the fuel but struggle getting the speedo to have a 7 as the first number.....Thanks!

specialk 09-13-2012 08:31 PM

My previous boat was a 290 with 502s. My current is a 280 with pro charged 496. Both boats ran 75. The 2 boats are totally different animals. The 290 is much bigger. The 280 is a great boat and handles great. It rides on top of the water. The 290 rides great but rides in the water. You need to decide whether u want a single engine or twin engine boat. I decided for the single engine to use in different lakes. Both boats will use about the same amount of fuel. You can't really compare the 2 boats.

PROWRENCH 09-14-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by kep140 (Post 3776458)
propwrench, I am very very seriously considering drippinwetII's 300 that boat is great ride great size and going 90 in a 300 revenge its hard not to smile ear to ear.....my biggest stumbling factor is telling myself the fuel useage is not going to put me in the poor house lol just for refrence and piece of mind what kind of fuel useage do you see in the same boat with 496's? The 280 is going use half the fuel but struggle getting the speedo to have a 7 as the first number.....Thanks!

I suspect that may be many people's fear. With the HO's it of course depends on how you run it. On a 50+ mile run earlier ths year cruising at 45, which is around 3500 rpm, it gets better than 1.5 mpg, which I thought was pretty good. With the throttles pinned though, she drinks it real fast. You can't really compare port fuel injection with carbs though. That boat, as is, will eat fuel if you're running hard.

The price on that 300 is a great deal. You could convert those engines to EFI for $20k, probably a little less. In my opinion, you would still be sitting ok, as it would be more desirable to sell. Or, you could buy mine, and I'll go 90 :coolcowboy: Not that it's for sale, but I could be convinced, the horsepower junkie that I am.

kep140 09-14-2012 03:13 PM

Who's efi were you thinking? I have been talking to rootz efi....seems like a decent set up. Pricey. But nice.

Whats your boat look like? What do you think yours is worth with 496s?

oops getting off topic here...


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