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chewymalone 08-10-2005 10:05 PM

Lab My 242LS Prop???
 
I have a 1990 Formula 242LS with 454 magnum (365HP)/Bravo 1 power. I'm currently spinning a Mirage (not +) 23P. WOT gives me 4400 RPM at 55-56 MPH. The boat is slow to plane with a load but otherwise rides and turns great with my current set-up. I would like to get into the manufacturer's recommended WOT RPM range of 4600-5000 and gain some speed doing it.

From what I've read, I might be able to cure the planing problem, increase WOT RPM's, and increase my top-end by labbing the Mirage. Any advice? What props are other 242 owners running?

For what it's worth, I also have a 23P Rapture that I'm thinking of trying this weekend. I kept it when I sold my Baja and I'm thinking what the heck. Anybody compared Mirages and Raptures back-to-back?

throttleup 08-11-2005 11:38 AM

Re: Lab My 242LS Prop???
 
The Mirage Plus is a superior propeller to that of the Rapture. Mercury has higher tolerances than Michigan Wheel. But I will also say that the perfect prop is the one that runs the best and achieves your goals. I also agree that if you want to see more top end then you need to run at a higher RPM, as this is were your peak HP is found (4900-5000). So the 23P props are really to tall for you. Also keep in mind that your are propped for cruise speed now so as you prop for top end at 5000 RPM you will loose some cruise speed.

Safe Testing!

Julie

chewymalone 08-11-2005 11:57 AM

Re: Lab My 242LS Prop???
 
So do you think I should scrap the Mirage 23 instead of labbing it? If so, it sounds as if I need to step down to a lower pitch. Would you suggest a Mirage + 21P? From what I've seen, these may be really more like a 23P.

throttleup 08-11-2005 01:53 PM

Re: Lab My 242LS Prop???
 
Yes, I would go with a 21P Mirage Plus and/ or a 23P Lab Finihsied possibly.

Julie

bobl 08-18-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Lab My 242LS Prop???
 
I have a customer with a 242LS with a 454 Mag. We did a lot of prop testing and ended up running a 19" Rev 4. It topped out right at 5100 RPM and 59 MPH on GPS. This gave it a pretty decent hole shot too. We tried a 21" Rev 4, but the hole shot was too sluggish and we lost a couple of MPH. It did cruise good though.

M3Rolo 04-15-2008 05:16 PM

Prop for 242 formula
 
I noticed you said you have tried many props on a 242ls. I have a 1990 242LS with a 454 and Bravo I. I currently run a 21P Quicksilver 3blade. I can get 58 mph at 5100rpm but it is sluggesh out of the hole. What do you rec?

M3Rolo 04-15-2008 05:16 PM

I noticed you said you have tried many props on a 242ls. I have a 1990 242LS with a 454 and Bravo I. I currently run a 21P Quicksilver 3blade. I can get 58 mph at 5100rpm but it is sluggesh out of the hole. What do you rec?

masi242 04-15-2008 07:51 PM

On my 1987 242LS I am running a Bravo 4 blade 22p labbed the best I have seen is 55mph gps.I mostly cruise around 35-40 so it`s fine for me.

Monaco20 06-08-2008 06:19 PM

Hi
I have a 242 SS 454 genv 330 hp with mirage 17P , the prop is to small. Rpm is to high
So I was am looking for a new propp, I was thinking of mirage 21P-

Today we where 5 adults and 2 13 year olds teenagers.
7 people, and I struggeled to get tha boat to plane, even with the 17 P prop. I got it on plane without using tabs but it took
some time*S*

Maybe the mirage 19P will be the correct prop for me??

What do you guys think??

I have two copy of tests on the 242 LS with mag 454

Powerboat Magazine:
Quicksilver mirage 14 1/2 x 23 5000 rpm Radar top Speed 57
(Speedometr 59 mph)
Motorboat (Magazine):
Quicksilver mirage 21 4900 rpm (speedometr 60 mph)

What I find very strange are that the 23 pich has higer rpm then the 21????

I will asume that the Test in powerboat mag is the most reliable of the two

If anyone would like two have a copy of the tests i can send by email.

chewymalone 06-09-2008 11:28 AM

When my motor was stock, a 23P Mirage (non-plus) ran best. I saw 55MPH on GPS at about 4600 RPM.

I'm now running 70MPH with a 27P Mirage Plus and 600+HP.

hoozeyurdaddy 06-10-2008 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by chewymalone (Post 1420258)
I have a 1990 Formula 242LS with 454 magnum (365HP)/Bravo 1 power. I'm currently spinning a Mirage (not +) 23P. WOT gives me 4400 RPM at 55-56 MPH. The boat is slow to plane with a load but otherwise rides and turns great with my current set-up. I would like to get into the manufacturer's recommended WOT RPM range of 4600-5000 and gain some speed doing it.

From what I've read, I might be able to cure the planing problem, increase WOT RPM's, and increase my top-end by labbing the Mirage. Any advice? What props are other 242 owners running?

For what it's worth, I also have a 23P Rapture that I'm thinking of trying this weekend. I kept it when I sold my Baja and I'm thinking what the heck. Anybody compared Mirages and Raptures back-to-back?

If you lab the 23P Mirage, you may gain about 2-300 rpm, that will give you a speed increase, but may cost you on cruise, A 21P will give about the same rpm, It will improve hole shot, get the engine closer to it's operating rpm, but will stay about the same on speed, maybe alittle less. If you have the raptor, try it, what do you have to lose, all props are different, its not the quality of the mirage, but may perform for you. No offense Julie. But am I correct on my thinking?

hoozeyurdaddy 06-10-2008 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Monaco20 (Post 2583816)
Hi
I have a 242 SS 454 genv 330 hp with mirage 17P , the prop is to small. Rpm is to high
So I was am looking for a new propp, I was thinking of mirage 21P-

Today we where 5 adults and 2 13 year olds teenagers.
7 people, and I struggeled to get tha boat to plane, even with the 17 P prop. I got it on plane without using tabs but it took
some time*S*

Maybe the mirage 19P will be the correct prop for me??

What do you guys think??

I have two copy of tests on the 242 LS with mag 454

Powerboat Magazine:
Quicksilver mirage 14 1/2 x 23 5000 rpm Radar top Speed 57
(Speedometr 59 mph)
Motorboat (Magazine):
Quicksilver mirage 21 4900 rpm (speedometr 60 mph)

What I find very strange are that the 23 pich has higer rpm then the 21????

I will asume that the Test in powerboat mag is the most reliable of the two

If anyone would like two have a copy of the tests i can send by email.

you need to prop for how you use your boat the most, 7 people with fuel is a good size load, is that your normal boating trip? what was the rpm then? you say it's to high, how high is that? as far as the tests go, was it the same boat? alltitude? air temp? water temp? dry climate, Humid climate? These all make a difference on propshaft HP, Look at them as a starting point and go from there, Each boat and how that boat is used is different, use the tests as information, not for how yours should be set-up.
Larry

cliff3466 06-12-2008 07:47 PM

I have a 1989 242LS I just replaced the 454Mag with a 454Mag MPI. I just tested a Bravo 1 24P last weekend. It was a little slow out of the hole but I saw 65mph (speedo) 5mph faster than my old motor with a 21P Mirage. I have my old Mirage on eBay if you are interested.

M3Rolo 06-02-2009 06:57 PM

Copy
 
I would like a copy if you still have it: [email protected]. Thanks! Matt


Originally Posted by Monaco20 (Post 2583816)
Hi
I have a 242 SS 454 genv 330 hp with mirage 17P , the prop is to small. Rpm is to high
So I was am looking for a new propp, I was thinking of mirage 21P-

Today we where 5 adults and 2 13 year olds teenagers.
7 people, and I struggeled to get tha boat to plane, even with the 17 P prop. I got it on plane without using tabs but it took
some time*S*

Maybe the mirage 19P will be the correct prop for me??

What do you guys think??

I have two copy of tests on the 242 LS with mag 454

Powerboat Magazine:
Quicksilver mirage 14 1/2 x 23 5000 rpm Radar top Speed 57
(Speedometr 59 mph)
Motorboat (Magazine):
Quicksilver mirage 21 4900 rpm (speedometr 60 mph)

What I find very strange are that the 23 pich has higer rpm then the 21????

I will asume that the Test in powerboat mag is the most reliable of the two

If anyone would like two have a copy of the tests i can send by email.



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