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JS232 04-20-2006 02:02 PM

Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
On a single engine application,

I know that a four blades prop is less subject to blowout...

What other benefits are gained using 4 blades?

For example, will the boat fly more level?

throttleup 04-20-2006 02:36 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
You should have better hole shot, cruise speed may improve and handling will improve, typically less blowout .

Julie

JS232 04-20-2006 02:42 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Thanks Julie,

Would the boat fly more level in the rough ?

throttleup 04-20-2006 05:07 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Many factors effect the way a boat will "fly" . The prop is one of them. Drive trim and balance of the boat will also effect the way a boat "flys". Typically in rough water you will want the CG forward of where it is for top speed. This keeps the bow down and allows the bow to cut through the water and do what it's designed to do.

The prop, especially on a single engine boat, can influence the overall handling of the boat more than just about anything else you can do to the boat.

Matt

Boatshopping 04-20-2006 11:33 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Julie,

What is the rule of thumb when going from a three blade prop to a four blade prop as far as pitch is concerned? How much more cruising speed would four blade prop give (on avg.) in a twin engine application?

Thanks,
John

Boatshopping 04-20-2006 11:37 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Also any recommendations, currently running counter rotating 26p chopper props on a 24' Superboat with twin Merc 200 outboards. Thinking of either trying 28p choppers or a pair of four blade props.

Thanks again,
John

drypipetiger 04-21-2006 06:07 AM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 

Originally Posted by JS232
What other benefits are gained using 4 blades?

A negative would be that it's harder on the drive.

bbladesprops 04-21-2006 10:13 AM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
There are so many variables when it comes to choosing 3 or 4 blade props.

Yes, you can agree with the statements you see here on the majority basis. One other thing that should be noted is that on boats requiring mega bow carrying help, 4 blade props can actually hurt the top end performance, and handling due to there extra stern lifting characteristics. Also blow out upon acceleration and cornering can be a problem.

Boatshopping, plan on a 1" reduction in pitch when choosing a 4 blade replacement for your 3 blade.

Boatshopping 04-22-2006 07:29 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Thanks for the reply Brett!

From what I have read I don't think the Superboats need any stern lift although mine is fairly heavy with twin outboards on it. Do you have any recommendations for other props that I should try?

John


Originally Posted by bbladesprops
There are so many variables when it comes to choosing 3 or 4 blade props.

Yes, you can agree with the statements you see here on the majority basis. One other thing that should be noted is that on boats requiring mega bow carrying help, 4 blade props can actually hurt the top end performance, and handling due to there extra stern lifting characteristics. Also blow out upon acceleration and cornering can be a problem.

Boatshopping, plan on a 1" reduction in pitch when choosing a 4 blade replacement for your 3 blade.


bbladesprops 04-24-2006 11:28 AM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Outboards, chopper props and Superboats have always been a popular combination. I'd like to suggest the Tempest Plus propellers but Mercury only offers them to 23 pitch in counter rotators. We could try the 25 Rev 4 in the 4blade and some Mirage Plus props in the 3 blade. These props will help the mid range you are running but may not help top end.

What are your current speed and rpm numbers?

Boatshopping 04-24-2006 09:40 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Brett,

Some of my numbers may be off. I haved owned the boat for a short time and I am going on what I was told. Best was 78-79 I think at 6500 and a very light load. That was with 1.87:1 cle cases and the 26" choppers.

John

bbladesprops 04-25-2006 06:31 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
You are dialed as far as top end efficientcy. I'm sure the mid numbers aren't that good because it is the nature of the beast with the choppers. Get some seat time with the props you have and then we should look at the mid and upper end actual numbers you see.

Let me know.

Boatshopping 04-25-2006 07:26 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Thanks Brett! That is what I kind of thought. Mid range is what I would like to improve and I didn't know if the four blades would help. I will get some more exact numbers and get back to you with them.

John

Ike 04-25-2006 08:03 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Will going to a 4 blade from a 3 blade help with torque steer on a single outboard?

Boatshopping 04-25-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Handling difference 3 blades vs 4 blades
 
Ike,

Where do you keep your boat in Paoli? I lived in Berwyn for a while and now out in the Phoenixville area. Though my boat is currently residing in Royersford. I take it you are looking for a prop for the little Apache.

John


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