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StillHaulin@63 09-05-2006 05:16 PM

Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
I was planning to put a labbed 24" Bravo-1 4-blade on my Baja 232 (454 Mag MPI w B1) which is presently running a stock 23" Mirage/PLUS 3-blade prop. A cleaner holeshot, less turning cavitation and mid-range throttle control are key objectives, not so much top end.

It was suggested by a knowledgable dealer to consider a stock 23" Revolution-4 prop (or stock 22" Bravo-1) in lieu of the labbed 24" Bravo-1 due to possible excess slippage of the labbed prop. Anyone have any experience with this type of situation?

ReggieRaft 09-05-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
Go with the Rev 4 23 pitch. You will be very happy.

bbladesprops 09-05-2006 09:00 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
We set these up daily with REV 4's. Give us a call and we'll discuss some test REV 4 props for you to try.

1987-242SS454 09-07-2006 07:13 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
I really like the Rev 4 BBlades just sent me for my boat, I don't have any Bravo experience so I really cant compare them though.

Queenie 09-07-2006 09:19 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
We have the 23 pitch 4 blade Revolutions on our boat and we can't say enough to how well the boat responds to these props.

We tried 12 to 15 sets of props on our 1988 31 ft Stinger. This was the only prop to get the bow up and air under the boat. We're going to lab them this winter as we know we'll see some slight improvement with our speed and RPM's. We picked up several RPM's and increased our speed by 2-3MPH.

Pat McPherson 09-08-2006 11:16 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
I'm pretty happy with the labbed 28p Bravo 1 that BBlades did for me, but I wonder how my boat would run with a Rev 4?
The Rev 4 seems to push old school straight V bottom boats vary well.
What is the max pitch offered these days?
I run a 26p or labbed 28p Bravo 1; is there a comparable Rev 4?

509 SC 09-08-2006 08:50 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
I'm not positive but I believe the largest pitch offered is a 23". Steve

Pat McPherson 09-11-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 

Originally Posted by 509 SC
I'm not positive but I believe the largest pitch offered is a 23". Steve

I messed around with Merc's prop selector and got it to spit out a 25p Rev 4. After that it only suggests Mirage + or Bravo 1.
I think I'd need a 27p Rev 4...

SPEEDFREAKS 10-01-2006 09:24 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 

Originally Posted by StillHaulin@61
I was planning to put a labbed 24" Bravo-1 4-blade on my Baja 232 (454 Mag MPI w B1) which is presently running a stock 23" Mirage/PLUS 3-blade prop. A cleaner holeshot, less turning cavitation and mid-range throttle control are key objectives, not so much top end.

It was suggested by a knowledgable dealer to consider a stock 23" Revolution-4 prop (or stock 22" Bravo-1) in lieu of the labbed 24" Bravo-1 due to possible excess slippage of the labbed prop. Anyone have any experience with this type of situation?

WHAT YOU DID NOT SAY WAS WHAT RPM YOU ARE SPINNING
A 4 BLADE WILL SLIP LESS THENE 3 BLADE SO A 224B IS A GOOD START LABBED PROPS ARE GOOD BUT THERE ARE NOT MENT TO USE EVERY DAY THERE THINED OUT AND THEY GET WEEK I RIP A EAR OFF OF ONE AND I DIN NOT HIT ANYTHING IT JUST GOT WEEK AND BROKE

bbladesprops 10-02-2006 07:00 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
25 is the largest Rev 4 made. I am still lobbying for 27's but with all the other things going on right now, my wishes are falling on deaf ears. I know we would have many applications they would work on.

I should of pushed harder when I still worked there.

Pat McPherson 10-03-2006 11:21 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 

Originally Posted by bbladesprops
25 is the largest Rev 4 made. I am still lobbying for 27's but with all the other things going on right now, my wishes are falling on deaf ears. I know we would have many applications they would work on.

Hey Brett,
How does the Turbo Fusion 4 compare to the Merc Rev 4?
The Turbo comes in larger pitch sizes.

StillHaulin@63 10-03-2006 11:45 AM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
Just an FYI:
Got a chance to test a 23" Rev-4 on my Baja 232 this week. Although I have tested with both a 23" Mirage/PLUS and a 22" Bravo/1 reaching a max speed of 66-67mph, both running as smooth as silk in 1' wind chop.

The Rev-4 was quite different. Running offshore in 2' seas, the Rev-4 performed pretty well but seemed a bit "loose" all morning, not terrible, but not a solid, hooked-up feel like the Bravo/1. When I made my first high-speed pass behind the breakwater, at about 60mph I began to experience a somewhat violent chine walk which seemed to intensify as the speed increased. It became a bit scary so I throttled back at about 64mph and didn't loose the chine walk until I slowed to about 40-45mph.

I have never experienced chine walking before on this boat and the only thing which was different was the new Rev-4 prop I was testing. I am assuming this prop has some design characteristics which may have been the cause?

AIR TIME 10-03-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
can you take both props with you and test one and go back test the other the same day.

StillHaulin@63 10-03-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 

Originally Posted by AIR TIME
can you take both props with you and test one and go back test the other the same day.

I've already shipped the 22" Bravo/1 prop to Throttle-Up to be cupped to 23", polished and balanced. I'm sold on the 4-blade and the Bravo/1 felt strong and solid in all RPM ranges, and in 3-4' seas.

bbladesprops 10-03-2006 02:19 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
Pat,

We have seen the Fusion 4 run similar to the Rev 4. The Rev 4 is typically 1-2 mph faster. However, the F4 comes in pitches to 32! And, the higher pitches, are higher in rake angles.

ChristianGott 10-03-2006 04:34 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
pat's got it...
at least from my experience....my revo4's work exceptionally well on my "old school" 87 sutphen rumrunner, twin 350mags
42mph at 3000rpm, 54@3800, tabs down a bit past parallel, drives out just a bit above parallel..the mid range handling and cruise are awesome...
c

StillHaulin@63 10-03-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Bravo-1 vs. Revolution-4 (Labbed vs. Stock)
 
FYI ..... I'm interested in selling my 23p Rev-4.
Bought new-in-the-box for testing, it's a 23" pitch RH 4-blade Mercury SS propeller (48-857030-A46) which has been used for less than an hour and is in absolutely MINT condition with no dings, scratches or nicks. $275
PM if interested.


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