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StillHaulin@63 05-08-2007 01:22 PM

Prop Slip - Labbed vs. Stock
 
I was told by my marine mechanic that, with the same pitch prop, a labbed version will provide less
mid-range cruising efficiency than that a stock version of the same prop. I also had noticed the difference when testing both a labbed 24p B/1 4-blade as well as a stock one on my 23' hull.

I assume this is caused by slippage due to the thinner blades.
Is this true?

bbladesprops 05-08-2007 02:54 PM

The recipe used when Labbing determines the end result.

A "standard" Lab recipe developed 15 years ago at Merc Racing for a Bravo 1 will allow for a 1-2 mph cruise loss on a sport boat. It may gain 4-5 on the top though.

Hull design , power, and Lab recipe determine the outcome.

Remember, Labbing was designed for speed. There are other advantages to Labbing also.

StillHaulin@63 05-08-2007 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by bbladesprops (Post 2120774)
Remember, Labbing was designed for speed. There are other advantages to Labbing also.

Thanks for the input ...
Other than WOT top speed, what are the other advantages?
Also, is it fair to assume that thinner blades allow more prop slip?

bbladesprops 05-08-2007 04:32 PM

Thin blades do not induce slip.

Advantages often overlooked that I really like to tell folks about is Acceleration and buttery smooth operation.

Brett

StillHaulin@63 05-08-2007 05:59 PM

What makes the "labbing" cause a loss in cruising efficiency?
Wouldn't you have the same amount of pitch and blade surface?

gsmith9898 05-08-2007 06:19 PM

I just changed to a 2 inch shortie and my slip number went from 8% to 13% with the same prop. Why is that?

crb76 05-08-2007 06:38 PM

Drive height

gsmith9898 05-08-2007 07:26 PM

Any way to get the slip numbers down?

throttleup 05-08-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by StillHaulin@61 (Post 2121009)
What makes the "labbing" cause a loss in cruising efficiency?
Wouldn't you have the same amount of pitch and blade surface?


The acutal pitch of a lab finished prop, in most cases, is lower than that of a non-lab finished prop. Your slip really does not go up with a lab finished prop compared to a stock prop when you take into account the true pitch of the lab finished prop.

B BOATER 05-08-2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by gsmith9898 (Post 2121101)
Any way to get the slip numbers down?

sounds like your X demension is to high. I would try a 1" spacer. What kind of drive?

BenPerfected 05-08-2007 08:30 PM

If you are running B-1's, what is wrong with 13% slip? What 8% slip says to me is that your drives were to deep.

gsmith9898 05-09-2007 07:12 AM

xr with sportsmaster 2 inch shortie.

BURNSMAZZ 05-09-2007 08:15 AM

Brett just did a pair of Bravo 1s for me.I gained about 2-3mph at 3000 rpm,acceleration from 3000-5000 rpms is a lot better,top end is about the same as my 3 blade turbo vectors. I 'm pretty happy with the outcome,and the props look awesome.

StillHaulin@63 05-09-2007 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by throttleup (Post 2121111)
The acutal pitch of a lab finished prop, in most cases, is lower than that of a non-lab finished prop. Your slip really does not go up with a lab finished prop compared to a stock prop when you take into account the true pitch of the lab finished prop.

Makes sense ....
Does that explain the additional RPMs which are gained with labbing,
or is the RPM increase due to the actual thinning of the blades?

throttleup 05-09-2007 11:23 AM

That accounts for some of it. The rpm gain is from a lot of little things that when added up are noticeable.

The thinning of the blades adds a little rpm but thinning the blades is only part of the entire process.

B BOATER 05-09-2007 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by gsmith9898 (Post 2121589)
xr with sportsmaster 2 inch shortie.

What kind of boat? And 8% top speed does not mean your to deep. Im have a 1'' shorty with 9% slip @ speeds over 120.

gsmith9898 05-09-2007 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by B BOATER (Post 2122418)
What kind of boat? And 8% top speed does not mean your to deep. Im have a 1'' shorty with 9% slip @ speeds over 120.

27 daytona

B BOATER 05-09-2007 07:51 PM

I think we have talked about this before . Dont know your speeds but it seems the faster the more slip. I have been thinking of trying throttle up barracuda props might work for you as well they are a well rounded prop from what I have read. If you can I would try a 1" spacer.


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