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fastlane40 08-23-2007 04:59 AM

Prop Speed Calculation
 
Does anyone know how to calculate prop speed.Now a stupid question.Why when using a 1.27 ratio lower compared to a 1.5 ratio why do we have to drop prop pitch.With the 1.27 ratio the prop shaft is actually turning slower so i would think a bigger pitch prop would be required.

throttleup 08-23-2007 06:14 AM

The gear ratio refers to the number of engine revolutions for each prop shaft revolution.

If the engine turns 5000 rpm with a 1.5 gear ratio the prop shaft rpm is 3,333.

With a 1.27 ratio at 5000 engine rpm the prop shaft is turning 3,937 rpm.

So in theory you will go faster with a higher (numerically lower) gear ratio with the same prop at the same engine rpm.

fastlane40 08-23-2007 06:24 AM

Explained perfectly.Thanks

bbladesprops 08-23-2007 12:34 PM

If you go to a higher gear ratio (lower numbers), it will take more power to turn the same pitch as previously used at the same rpm as previously turned with the lower gears (higher number).

If you can do these things, turn the same rpm with the same pitch with the taller gears (lower number), you will go faster.

Just changing the gears dose not do this. You change the gears because you ran out of prop pitch and you are on the rev limiter or over reving the engine. (or other reasons we won't go into)

z.zuperboat 08-24-2007 01:47 PM

In theory which will go faster if you even out the numbers say. A 1.5 with a 28p or a 1.36 with a 26p. I was always told a 1.5 with a 28 would be faster than a 1.36 with a 26.

CigDaze 08-24-2007 02:18 PM

V = 0.000947 * Engine RPM * (Pitch / Ratio) * Efficiency

V = Speed in MPH
Pitch = Prop pitch in Inches
Ratio is Drive Ratio
Efficiency = ( 1 - Prop Slip)

CigDaze 08-24-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by z.zuperboat (Post 2246664)
In theory which will go faster if you even out the numbers say. A 1.5 with a 28p or a 1.36 with a 26p. I was always told a 1.5 with a 28 would be faster than a 1.36 with a 26. I know the 1.5 would accelerate faster. So the only reason to go down in gear from a 1.5 to a 1.36 say would be because you run out of prop pitch ? In my case I have a 1.68 turning a 35p, kind of running out of prop pitch. I know rpm and motor power band are to be considered !

In Theory, it would be best to turn the largest prop you can as slow as you can. You engine speed's going to be a given, so the faster your transmission is spinning, the more heat and frictional losses you will incur. Same with a prop, the faster you're spinning it, the lower your efficiency will be because the thrust to drag(torque) ratio starts to decline.

The negatives: The bigger the prop, the more torque it will generate, and acceleration suffers.

Finding that perfect delicate balance is Throttle Up's Specialty!
:)

fastlane40 08-24-2007 03:59 PM

When you get into it it's a delicate balance.How many people would be out there that are searching for every little bit but are missing out due to a simple factor like gear ratio or pitch.Take a reasonable size vee,mid weight.It would need torque more so than a comparably size cat i guess.Remember the post on here about Fountain using 1:65 ratio Bravo's.Were they achieving something by turning a big prop slower?

z.zuperboat 08-27-2007 09:42 AM

Agreed Larger pitch at slower rpm is faster. I guess thats why the racers years ago favored the 1.68. It should accelerate faster.

MOBILEMERCMAN 08-27-2007 10:52 AM

Z Zuperboat , in your case it seems a ratio change is in order 35 pitch props tend to look like paddle wheels, I would calculate ratio to end up near a 29.
Jim


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