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island2 06-05-2009 02:58 PM

cleaver props for alpha - where to start looking?
 
Who sells decent stainless cleaver props for alpha drives now?

Pat Ousborne 06-05-2009 06:36 PM

Quicksilver which is now Mercury used to make them. Not sure if they still do? We ran a cleaver with an Alpha on a 22Pachanga years ago. I've seen them on ebay.

RaggedEdge 06-05-2009 07:47 PM

Last I knew my marina had a bunch of the older style cleavers for the alpha. They had a standard type hub with cleaver style blades, I remember them being 3 blade only. What pitch are you looking for? One? Rotation? Or a pair?

This place is a Sea Ray dealer and these were the norm on the Pachanga's back then, ran a pair on my 88 32 Pachanga.

island2 06-06-2009 03:02 PM

Thanks RaggedEdge.

Currently have a pair of Quicksilver 48 89804 A5 23
23 Pitch - 15" diameter - 2 righthand

One outdrive needs work (oil leaking out weap hole, not terrible, but some metal filings on magnet, milky oil run by previous owner for part of last season), and I'm thinking of taking the opportunity to put a counter rotation drive on.

Boat is thru-hub exhaust.

But these cleavers really give it a nice quick easy plane which I like and I don't need or want any more bow lift. My last Nova had a pair of mirage (original) props on it and had a higher top end, but it labored to get up on plane, and these cleavers seem to handle really well for me.

http://www.islanddesign.com/temp/JJC_8461.jpg
http://www.islanddesign.com/temp/JJC_8464.jpg

So I'm looking for the counter rotation prop if there is an exact match, or else a very similar par but counter rotating (but ideal would be a matched LH since then I'll already have two RH props!)

RaggedEdge 06-07-2009 07:19 AM

Same props! Had my 32 Pachanga changed over to counter rotation as part of the deal when I bought it. Always had the same experience with those props, worked well. Next time I'm up there I could check to see if there are any left.

ext2gtx 06-07-2009 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by island2 (Post 2882115)
Thanks RaggedEdge.

Currently have a pair of Quicksilver 48 89804 A5 23
23 Pitch - 15" diameter - 2 righthand

One outdrive needs work (oil leaking out weap hole, not terrible, but some metal filings on magnet, milky oil run by previous owner for part of last season), and I'm thinking of taking the opportunity to put a counter rotation drive on.

Boat is thru-hub exhaust.

But these cleavers really give it a nice quick easy plane which I like and I don't need or want any more bow lift. My last Nova had a pair of mirage (original) props on it and had a higher top end, but it labored to get up on plane, and these cleavers seem to handle really well for me.

http://www.islanddesign.com/temp/JJC_8461.jpg
http://www.islanddesign.com/temp/JJC_8464.jpg

So I'm looking for the counter rotation prop if there is an exact match, or else a very similar par but counter rotating (but ideal would be a matched LH since then I'll already have two RH props!)

I have the 21p cleavers called merc they told me they didnt make a left hand to match mine,so i had to buy new props.So call merc and see if they made one to match yours before you beat your brains out looking for one.just my 2 cents

island2 06-07-2009 10:05 AM

Thanks Mike -- ha, didn't think of starting directly at the source. Will do Monday.

So what did you do -- did you get a different set of cleavers, and if so, what did you get?

ext2gtx 06-07-2009 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by island2 (Post 2882527)
Thanks Mike -- ha, didn't think of starting directly at the source. Will do Monday.

So what did you do -- did you get a different set of cleavers, and if so, what did you get?

I went with mirage plus cupped and labbed from bblade,gained all around in performance.I did go counter rotating with my boat.

island2 06-07-2009 03:04 PM

Thanks again Mike.

I suppose there is a reason why I'm not finding new cleavers of this style on the market now (better performance from newer prop designs) but I sure liked the look of the cleavers...

ext2gtx 06-08-2009 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by island2 (Post 2882634)
Thanks again Mike.

I suppose there is a reason why I'm not finding new cleavers of this style on the market now (better performance from newer prop designs) but I sure liked the look of the cleavers...

Let us know what you find out.

Pat Ousborne 06-08-2009 06:19 PM

My old Pachanga 22 ran best with 3 blade cleaver. Have you been to the Hydromotive Engineering website? They make cleavers in all # of blades including 3 blades. Not exactly the same design but very fast racing props used on Fountains before they merged with Mercury. I love mine. My boat is faster now than was with the mirage pluses. If you don't find what you're looking for might be worth a try. I'd be interested to know if anyone has tried on a Pachanga?

northernoffshore 06-09-2009 10:20 AM

I have a pair of 21's,rubber hub,right and left for sale.

island2 06-10-2009 01:18 PM

Thanks very much for the offer northernoffshore, but the 23 pitch seems perfect for my nova with twin 350 magnums so I don't think I want to go down to 21 -- otherwise that would be perfect.

One huge favor -- could you tell me what the part number is like on your 21 pitch props (how is the counter rotating prop part number stamped on the prop related to the standard rotation prop part number?)

northernoffshore 06-10-2009 05:25 PM

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These are the props. The left one only has the prop hub #, not the side stamp. The left is 01, the right is 02.They need to be cleaned up and you could repitch them up to 23p. Thy work really well in some applications. The mirages 3 blades sometimes knock a couple of mph off the top.

island2 06-13-2009 10:35 PM

Got a response from Mercury:

Good Afternoon. I am looking in the archives for our propellers. Regretfully I do not see a part number for a counter rotation clever propeller that matches your request.
So I guess they did not make a 23 pitch counter rotation cleaver matching mine.

island2 06-13-2009 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by northernoffshore (Post 2885454)
They need to be cleaned up and you could repitch them up to 23p

Thanks very much for the offer - these clean up easy - just shined my existing (standard rotation pair) up in a few hours - but I think I'm going to stay with standard rotation for the summer and then maybe tackle going to counter during the offseason. If I spend too much more time tearing the boat apart, I could miss the summer :)

I hadn't considered repitching -- anyone know what that typically costs for a pair?

Donzi38ZXXX 06-14-2009 10:03 AM

I Have 2- Standard Rotation Cleaver Props From A Boat I Owned Years Ago With Alphas. You Can Have Them If You Want. I Am Located In Maryland. Ted 410-493-0567


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