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s022mag 12-08-2011 03:37 PM

Revolution 4 blade Anyone???
 
I was told by a mechanic that a revolution 4 blade 21p would be a good fit for my 88' formula 311, 454/420hp TRS drives. Anyone use these and think it's a good match.

onesickpantera 12-08-2011 08:51 PM

Can't comment on if it will work on your setup. But I can tell you that a rev4 worked great on my boat. Much better bow lift than a Bravo and just as fast as a mirage plus.

A.O. Razor 12-09-2011 12:42 AM

Great prop. Give it a try.

pqjack 12-09-2011 08:00 AM

interesting.....i wonder if it would fit my application too?!?

s022mag 12-09-2011 08:27 AM

Do you guys think the pitch is right I believe he said it should act like a 23p mirage.

A.O. Razor 12-09-2011 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by s022mag (Post 3567560)
Do you guys think the pitch is right I believe he said it should act like a 23p mirage.

In my experience true pitch is much closer to stamped pitch number than a B1 prop. You will take a 200+/- rpm drop over a 23" Mirage+ to a 23" Rev4. Going from a 23" M+ to a 21" Rev4 will most likely give you 150-200 rpm. All this being said, stock true prop pitch within the same stamped pitch and prop model, vary from prop to prop and that can be a lot some times, so the only way to know for sure is to test both a 21" and a 23".

onesickpantera 12-09-2011 09:53 AM

Going from a Mirage Plus 25 to a Rev4 25 I only lost 100 rpm.

VetteLT193 12-09-2011 12:40 PM

I've been looking at these props too.

PITA to find a set used for some reason. It seems that everyone that has them likes them more than Bravo's or M+, but they aren't as common.

Everything I have read said they will drop you from a M+.

I currently spin 26" Bravo 1's on the low side. I think I need 23" Rev's to get into my peak RPM range because I think 25" would be too big.

A.O. Razor 12-09-2011 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by VetteLT193 (Post 3567745)
I've been looking at these props too.

PITA to find a set used for some reason. It seems that everyone that has them likes them more than Bravo's or M+, but they aren't as common.

Everything I have read said they will drop you from a M+.

I currently spin 26" Bravo 1's on the low side. I think I need 23" Rev's to get into my peak RPM range because I think 25" would be too big.

The Rev4 25" and B1 26" are very similar in true pitch. You will gain some rpms from the smaller dia. How many roms are you looking to gain? A Rev4 23" should net you about 400 rpms over the B1 26"

onesickpantera 12-09-2011 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by VetteLT193 (Post 3567745)
I've been looking at these props too.

PITA to find a set used for some reason. It seems that everyone that has them likes them more than Bravo's or M+, but they aren't as common.

Everything I have read said they will drop you from a M+.

I currently spin 26" Bravo 1's on the low side. I think I need 23" Rev's to get into my peak RPM range because I think 25" would be too big.

Used ones are rare. I gave up and bought a new one. I think it's because they work so well that people keep them!

I think Mikeb4 on here had a used 25 a few weeks ago.

ChristianGott 12-10-2011 10:58 PM

I run 23 revo4's on alpha drives behind 350 mags....it took some research, but the only thing i might change is the pitch (down to 21's), they work perfectly on the rumrunner...i wanted an efficient [email protected] go 140 miles on 50 gal at that pace...totally changed the handling, ride, etc...next up is to have bblades work them for a bit more rpm..maybe....they're a great prop....

A.O. Razor 12-11-2011 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by ChristianGott (Post 3568730)
I run 23 revo4's on alpha drives behind 350 mags....it took some research, but the only thing i might change is the pitch (down to 21's), they work perfectly on the rumrunner...i wanted an efficient [email protected] go 140 miles on 50 gal at that pace...totally changed the handling, ride, etc...next up is to have bblades work them for a bit more rpm..maybe....they're a great prop....

Just a thought. But if you use the prop for a lot of cruising, i'd seriously reconsider the lab job, especially for more rpm. The strength of the prop will be reduced significantly.

pqjack 12-11-2011 12:45 PM

just checked merc' site : the rev4 only goes from 15 to 25 pitch

Toffen 12-11-2011 01:26 PM

Hi!

I swapped to a single Vrod 350 sci from 2 Merc 2,5 EFI's this Spring. I have done some proptesting this summer and a labbed and cupped Rev4 suprisingly was the fastest both on top speed and cruise. It is 2 mph faster than a Mirage Plus 25 labbed by BBlades, Hydromotive Quad IV X O/B 25 and stock A45 Tempest 25. Great overall lift and handling. And this with stock tube lenght. Normally you can get 1 mph higher speed by shortering the tube approx. 16 millimeter. The tube of Rev4 is considerable longer than the other props, addding transom lift and drag.

My Phantom 25 is a straight V hull without steps and notch.

I will shorten the tube this spring, but also by myself the new Blaster from BBlades. I looks very fast design :)

Cheeers, Toffen

A.O. Razor 12-11-2011 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by pqjack (Post 3568977)
just checked merc' site : the rev4 only goes from 15 to 25 pitch

And???:point:

pqjack 12-11-2011 03:00 PM

i'm easily spinning a 27 mirage+ and you got me interested in the rev4:traurig001:

A.O. Razor 12-11-2011 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by pqjack (Post 3569026)
i'm easily spinning a 27 mirage+ and you got me interested in the rev4:traurig001:

Did not know that, so was not really sure why you posted it. It was not meant as an insult in any way. Sorry.

That's a bit of a bugger though. It would definetly be nice if they did a 27 and 29, it is a really cool prop and it deserves it. You could change the gear ratio in your drive as a way to make the pitch work, but that's not exactly cheap if you don't have the gears lying around. Also, one inch of pitch should be possible to add without any other mods, I'm sure Bblades can do that. That should put you at or a little below what you spin with the 27M+. One thing you could do, is to get one from Bblades test program in a 25" and just see how it feels on your rig. If it works well, you can talk to Brett and see what could be done to increase pitch and take the rpms down without altering any of the props stock caracteristics.

pqjack 12-11-2011 03:59 PM

no harm done...i actually appreciate your expertise...up here in the great white north,not too many people have hi-perf knowledge,and those that do,dont want to share...im not looking for more top end,but the rev4 sounded like a better all-around prop...thanks

tomas_wallin 12-12-2011 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Toffen (Post 3568997)
Hi!

I swapped to a single Vrod 350 sci from 2 Merc 2,5 EFI's this Spring. I have done some proptesting this summer and a labbed and cupped Rev4 suprisingly was the fastest both on top speed and cruise. It is 2 mph faster than a Mirage Plus 25 labbed by BBlades, Hydromotive Quad IV X O/B 25 and stock A45 Tempest 25. Great overall lift and handling. And this with stock tube lenght. Normally you can get 1 mph higher speed by shortering the tube approx. 16 millimeter. The tube of Rev4 is considerable longer than the other props, addding transom lift and drag.

My Phantom 25 is a straight V hull without steps and notch.

I will shorten the tube this spring, but also by myself the new Blaster from BBlades. I looks very fast design :)

Cheeers, Toffen

Hey Toffen,

What slip numbers did you get with the rev4 compared to the Mirage Plus?

Toffen 12-12-2011 10:41 AM

Hi,

I managed a tick below 78 mph at 6,500 with one person. Water conditions a little chop. This translates to 11,5% slip. I could only rise the propshaft 3,5 inch below. Lost bite after that. The Rev4 did 80 mph at 6,500 rpms with a little chop. I ran the propshaft 3 below. I can rise it higher. I also done consistently 79 mph on glassy water at 6,400 rpms. This translates to approx 9% slip. Rev4 works better. Much better bite and overall lift. Rev4 was also faster than a a45 Tempest 25. The Tempest was a nick faster than the mirage both on cruise and wot. But also lost bite when jacked up.

I have been reccommended to shorten the tube approx 16 mm, which should give another mph / 100 rpms. Cross my fingers:)

Cheers Toffen

s022mag 12-13-2011 11:22 AM

Just got off the phone with Brad from BBlades and I can demo the rev4 for $90 a pair plus s&h for 15 days. Can't wait for spring.

A.O. Razor 12-13-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by s022mag (Post 3570214)
Just got off the phone with Brad from BBlades and I can demo the rev4 for $90 a pair plus s&h for 15 days. Can't wait for spring.

Money well spent. Let us know of your results come spring.


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