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jds 06-27-2013 03:40 PM

01 25 outlaw 496 mag
 
Running mirage plus 3 blade 23p was hitting 65 on Speedo @ 4500 terrible comming out of the hole . Just ordered a revolution 4 21p to get my rrrrr s up and Better hole shot . What do u guys think. Thanks

nailit 06-27-2013 10:06 PM

Going to jump out hole but your going to dance on the rev limit. Don't see how your getting 65 at 4500.. I was running 5k at 65 with the 23 m+ and 61 boucing off rev with the 21 rev 4.

What's your goal? Wot or hole shot cruise?

jds 06-28-2013 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 3950429)
Going to jump out hole but your going to dance on the rev limit. Don't see how your getting 65 at 4500.. I was running 5k at 65 with the 23 m+ and 61 boucing off rev with the 21 rev 4.

What's your goal? Wot or hole shot cruise?

Little bit of everything.. not sure how acc Speedo is. Fact WOT should be 4800 so i went down to 21 s second guessing should have went with 22p. But all good just comming out of the hole was terrible and i felt I was lacking in the mid. Plus having trouble with my thru hull port side not opening thinking selonid. .

nailit 06-28-2013 04:55 PM

You need GPS speeds. Your not running 65.. at 4500 prob close to 60-61. But if you can only push the 23 to 4500, the 21 rev 4 should be nice.. mine walked up at 2000 rpms with th
At prop but my 454 may was on top the rev limiter singing at 5200 but only 61 MPH in flat water.

I would say try the rev and see how you like.. or a 22 b1. Either 4 blade will help where you want it.

jds 06-28-2013 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 3950854)
You need GPS speeds. Your not running 65.. at 4500 prob close to 60-61. But if you can only push the 23 to 4500, the 21 rev 4 should be nice.. mine walked up at 2000 rpms with th
At prop but my 454 may was on top the rev limiter singing at 5200 but only 61 MPH in flat water.

I would say try the rev and see how you like.. or a 22 b1. Either 4 blade will help where you want it.

Thanks I appreciate all your feed back I just installed the rev 4 will take it out tomorrow will let u know how it does.

nailit 06-28-2013 10:47 PM

Found a thread where I posted results with 21 rev 4

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...ml#post3237382

jds 06-30-2013 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 3950994)
Found a thread where I posted results with 21 rev 4

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...ml#post3237382

Hit the rev limiter @ 4900. Gonna try out the bravo 1 22p

hec2buck 07-03-2013 10:50 AM

We have propped many 25ft. Baja Outlaws. The prop that worked best was a 23" Quad IV cut down to 14 3/4" diameter. In your case perhaps a 22". Verify your tach is correct and give us a call.

Thanks,

Thom

jds 07-03-2013 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by hec2buck (Post 3953246)
We have propped many 25ft. Baja Outlaws. The prop that worked best was a 23" Quad IV cut down to 14 3/4" diameter. In your case perhaps a 22". Verify your tach is correct and give us a call.

Thanks,

Thom

What kind of speed did u get out of it? Good hole shot and mid range hit? Tach is correct . 496 mag dyno @ 2750 psi.

hollywoodoutlaw 10-18-2013 04:30 PM

I've done some prop work on my 01' 25 Outlaw, stock 496 HO. Started with a 23 mirage plus, hated it......couldn't bury the throttle while hitting almost 5,200rpm and 68mph on the speedo and so much slip it wasn't even fun to drive. Called BBlades and said I wanted top speed and they shipped me a Mirage plus 25p 3 blade, got my rpm's down to 4,750 and was almost touching 72 on the speedo but still a lot of slip......I sent it back-they labbed it and cupped the blades for traction. Threw it back on with high hopes.......not.......rpm's stayed about the same and dropped down to about 68mph, I would imagine due to the cup they put in the blades. I will be sending the prop back soon so they can make adjustments (hopefully get rid of the cup) so I can get my rpm's up and mph up also. At this point I don't care about traction. Since then I tested a Hydromotive 24 4 blade which was ok (68mph at 5,150rpm) much better traction all around and much smoother. My must have prop for this boat is the Bravo 1 24p 4 blade I just purchased (72mph at 5,100rpm) excellent traction and all around better performance. I'm still going to get my 25p 3 blade prop re-worked because its free for the initial adjustments (sucks I dropped a grand on this prop tho) but I will most likely only run my Bravo 1 24p indefinitely. I will hopefully be ordering my CMI headers soon so maybe next year I can bump it up to a labbed 26. Hope this helps

nailit 10-18-2013 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by hollywoodoutlaw (Post 4013821)
I've done some prop work on my 01' 25 Outlaw, stock 496 HO. Started with a 23 mirage plus, hated it......couldn't bury the throttle while hitting almost 5,200rpm and 68mph on the speedo and so much slip it wasn't even fun to drive. Called BBlades and said I wanted top speed and they shipped me a Mirage plus 25p 3 blade, got my rpm's down to 4,750 and was almost touching 72 on the speedo but still a lot of slip......I sent it back-they labbed it and cupped the blades for traction. Threw it back on with high hopes.......not.......rpm's stayed about the same and dropped down to about 68mph, I would imagine due to the cup they put in the blades. I will be sending the prop back soon so they can make adjustments (hopefully get rid of the cup) so I can get my rpm's up and mph up also. At this point I don't care about traction. Since then I tested a Hydromotive 24 4 blade which was ok (68mph at 5,150rpm) much better traction all around and much smoother. My must have prop for this boat is the Bravo 1 24p 4 blade I just purchased (72mph at 5,100rpm) excellent traction and all around better performance. I'm still going to get my 25p 3 blade prop re-worked because its free for the initial adjustments (sucks I dropped a grand on this prop tho) but I will most likely only run my Bravo 1 24p indefinitely. I will hopefully be ordering my CMI headers soon so maybe next year I can bump it up to a labbed 26. Hope this helps

Had you verified speed against GPS or just speedo? Cause your speedo is wrong, running 5100 @72 would be 4.84 slip and that's using conservative 23.5 for the overstated pitch on the 24 p b1s. I would say your around 67-68. That's using my slip #s from my 24s and my slip is really good at mid 10%! Your doing good though with stock power!!

hollywoodoutlaw 10-18-2013 09:57 PM

I wish that was GPS #'s but its all speedo. Already put the boat away for the year but when I ran that last number with the 24p b1, the temp was in the low 70's and no humidity so I would imagine come summer time my rpm's will drop slightly. It's going to be a new ball game then also because I'm trying to decide if I'm going to spend the BIG $'s and get the CMI headers or save a lil $ and go with the Dana Marine Torque flow's, so if anyone has input on that, I'm all ears. I'm pulling the trigger in the next month. A guy I know just put the CMI's on his 496 HO (Nordic Rage) and he will hopefully get a test run in this weekend and I will relay the results........he already sent video at idle and not only does it look sick, it sure does sound NICE!

nailit 10-19-2013 11:27 AM

Save your money. Minimal gains if any, with just exhaust. Your already high 60s, 1-2 MPH gains with exhaust, just assume save money and put money into vinyl or stereo, etc.

I looked into with my 25ol w/454 mag and decided to just enjoy it, then just got a 33ol this year. Not the fastest either, but good cruise (50mph @3700ish) that kids have fun in boat even in a little rough.

If your pulling trigger anyway, heard good things about DANA's..


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