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CaribouLou 08-28-2013 11:11 AM

600hp 22' Scarab XR/-1 propping
 
I've ran a stock 30 Bravo, and a labbed 28 bravo. Both props around 78 mph the boat really starts moving around. I think I need more bow lift, as I think I'm feeling bow steer. Any opinions?

hec2buck 08-28-2013 03:41 PM

What rpm are you turning both props, and where does your engine make peak dyno horsepower? This will help us figure ouv what is going on.

CaribouLou 08-28-2013 04:32 PM

The 30 about 5k, the 28 about 5200. The motor is still pulling but I'm forced to let off due to general respect for my own life lol.

bbladesprops 08-29-2013 11:04 AM

What rpm do you desire to turn the engine up to? How far are you trimming the drive out at 5-5200?
We will have to consider possible test propellers for you.

Brett

D Harry 09-04-2013 09:46 AM

I have a 525efi on it, with a -2 imco shortie and still didn't find the prop for it :-( plenty of stern lift above 70mph!! Best I ran till now is 78mph with a hydro P5 30 pitch @ 5100 rpm but alot of bow steer,stern lift and china walk that i have to pull back. Then i tried a Bravo but plenty of china walk with a 4 bladed. P5x plenty of slip and very slow accellation. Any idea would help??? But i would like to know if a hydro P5 can be worked on for plenty of more bow lift

CaribouLou 09-04-2013 02:07 PM

Your drive is too short, causing most of your problems. You need to try a 1.5" spacer

bbladesprops 09-04-2013 06:00 PM

Modifying your propeller may become a requirement.
Spacers are options too but I would want to talk to you more about that first.

We have a spacer plate test program too. You can test spacers without having to buy them.

Brett

D Harry 09-06-2013 02:40 AM

I tried the spacers already, and it didn't improve anything. Just for your info the prop shaft is 4" below the pad.

Harry

D Harry 09-14-2013 03:20 AM

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BBADWS6 09-14-2013 01:28 PM

Ive got a buddy that has the same boat as you with no drive modifications, its a stock Bravo 1 at stock Xdim.. Hes running less HP than you and turning more RPMs than you and runs 78 on a stock 28B1. He ran low 80s on a mirage 25P but the boat got too squirly. 78 to 80 is all that hull likes before it starts getting squirly, unless you have trim tabs.

hullofjustis 09-14-2013 03:09 PM

Dharry is your prop shaft 4" below pad with a shorty on it?
When putting big power in a lighter boat the more pitch you use, is going to lift the transom. My advice turn more rpms. I have always run 6000 rpm range. It seems to have less stress on the drive because of less load, i have never broken a drive with 825 hp behind it well in front of it. On a 30 ft single engine scarab. The more the angle (pitch) is added the more the blade is sideways like a paddle wheel which is lifting as well as pushing.

D Harry 09-15-2013 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by hullofjustis (Post 3995875)
Dharry is your prop shaft 4" below pad with a shorty on it?
When putting big power in a lighter boat the more pitch you use, is going to lift the transom. My advice turn more rpms. I have always run 6000 rpm range. It seems to have less stress on the drive because of less load, i have never broken a drive with 825 hp behind it well in front of it. On a 30 ft single engine scarab. The more the angle (pitch) is added the more the blade is sideways like a paddle wheel which is lifting as well as pushing.

Thanks for the info. Yes it's 3.3/4 " to be exact below the pad with a -2 shorthy. But since the 525efi is stock the rev limiter is at 5250 rpm, so do you suggest i'll go for a 1.36 gear ratio???

Yes i do have trim tabs and also full hydraulic steering

D Harry 09-27-2013 11:18 AM

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