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javi1782 04-21-2015 02:07 PM

Formula 242 SS sbc Prop?
 
So I have been doing a lot of reading and I am a bit confused when it comes to my prop.

I currently have a 89 242ss
sbc roller with pistons bored .30, a slightly more aggressive cam and forged crank
Alpha Drive
4 blade 17P Mercury Offshore Mercury Marine Series Prop
@ WOT 4200rpm at 38 MPH

The mechanic was telling me that the motor should turn 5200rpm and that the power band is between 4500 - 5200.

I contacted Formula and they said that when they sold these boats they were achieving 46mph on the sbc with a Mirage 19P.

Here is where I am confused, even though I would be gaining rpm's going from a 4 blade to a 3 blade wouldn't I lose rpm's due to the larger pitch and diameter.

I would think I would have to go to a smaller pitch and a 3 blade to achieve more rpm's, faster top end and faster cruise speed.

So what do you guys think I should get in order to achieve 5200rpm?
I would appreciate any insight that anyone may have.

Jonesyfxr 04-21-2015 06:32 PM

I'd say more pitch and less diameter will get you in your RPM range.

I'm building a roller SBC with Vortec heads, XM Cam, Airgap intake, Corsa diverters and a 750 Holley for my 21 foot BR. I Bought a Mirage 21 P to start off with.

javi1782 04-21-2015 08:43 PM

But the 19P mirage is a larger Diameter than what I currently have

Jonesyfxr 04-22-2015 07:44 PM

Maybe try giving B blades a call. They helped me get on the right track with my stock 260hp 5.7.

SB 04-22-2015 08:23 PM

You've given us absoltuely no information on your powerplant and rigging.

What speed, rpm, and prop did your boat run with the stock 260hp engine ? Again, yours.

Trash 04-24-2015 02:27 PM

What is the drive ratio?

Like SB said, we need more info.

cooper_361 04-27-2015 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by javi1782 (Post 4294972)
So I have been doing a lot of reading and I am a bit confused when it comes to my prop.

I currently have a 89 242ss
sbc roller with pistons bored .30, a slightly more aggressive cam and forged crank
Alpha Drive
4 blade 17P Mercury Offshore Mercury Marine Series Prop
@ WOT 4200rpm at 38 MPH

The mechanic was telling me that the motor should turn 5200rpm and that the power band is between 4500 - 5200.

I contacted Formula and they said that when they sold these boats they were achieving 46mph on the sbc with a Mirage 19P.

Here is where I am confused, even though I would be gaining rpm's going from a 4 blade to a 3 blade wouldn't I lose rpm's due to the larger pitch and diameter.

I would think I would have to go to a smaller pitch and a 3 blade to achieve more rpm's, faster top end and faster cruise speed.

So what do you guys think I should get in order to achieve 5200rpm?
I would appreciate any insight that anyone may have.

I have a 89 242 ls, my previous engine was a 377 mpi 320 hp, it ran about 51 mph with an enertia 17p at 5150 rpm. It was the best handling and top speed prop on that boat.
I now have a scorpion 377 with 377 hp and now runs about 59mph at 5300 rpm with an enertia 22p

javi1782 05-03-2015 10:33 AM

Update- I rented a 17p mirage plus and was able to achieve 45.3mph on gps at 4600rpm. I may try a 17p or 16p enertia and see how it does.

Jonesyfxr 05-03-2015 03:01 PM

My 21 foot Cobia Allante with a stock 260hp 350, an Alpha 1.5 ratio drive and a Solus Amita 3 aluminum prop went right about 50 on the speedo. I was being paced by a friend's boat that has a GPS speedo and his was reading 47 and I was pulling away from him.

I think you should start with a 19p prop with less diameter to get your RPM's up a tad.

javi1782 05-04-2015 09:50 AM

What Diameter was that 17"prop?

Jonesyfxr 05-04-2015 01:24 PM

It was a 17p 14.75" IIRC.

javi1782 05-04-2015 02:13 PM

I am going to try to compare to the 17p Mirage:
17P 14.5" Enertia
19P 14" Enertia

javi1782 05-05-2015 06:07 AM

Seems as the boat does not like the smaller diameter. Was able to squeeze max 4200 rpm out of it. May try a 15p mirage.

Jonesyfxr 05-05-2015 11:24 AM

Call B Blades. They will consult with you over the phone. They helped guide me in the right direction. They actually recommended a 4 blade prop for mine, but that was before the re power.

Jonesyfxr 05-05-2015 12:14 PM

Check out my old thread.....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/p...lection-2.html

javi1782 05-05-2015 03:01 PM

Thanks so much @Jonesyfxr

javi1782 05-05-2015 10:04 PM

So I found a winner. I tried the 17p enertia Eco. I was able to achieve 46mph @4600 rpm and a nice cruise speed of 34mph @3400rpm, I don't think it's going to get better than that. I was very impressed with that prop. I was able to get on plane with no issues with 3 people and 60 gallons of fuel. I gained 1.3mph on top end and about 2mph at 3400 and only lost 50rpm from the mirage plus 17p. I also tried a 15p Mirage plus and was able to get 5k rpms but at a lousy 41mph.

Jonesyfxr 05-06-2015 01:07 PM

Man that boat must be heavy! I'd think a 19p would be better, but what do I know? Lol

If you need any help send me a PM, I'm not far from you.

javi1782 05-06-2015 05:41 PM

Thanks man I really appreciate it. The 19 did very poorly. It's about 4200lbs dry.

Jonesyfxr 05-07-2015 06:42 AM

Consider it a pay it forward. It's the least I can do after all the halo that was given to me here by OSO members.


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