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ICDEDPPL 08-24-2022 10:15 PM

prop rake measurement
 
Am I measuring this right ?

Mercury is supposed to be 15* so even with a angle meter app it`s still 15*
The other seems to be 12*


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e62f69521b.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e5de0122ce.jpg



green lightning 08-25-2022 07:14 AM

That is how I measured mine.

PQ290Enticer 01-21-2023 07:07 AM

You are on a different level than me here so keep that in mind while reading my questions.
Are these new or have you run them already?
If you ran them was there a difference in rpm?
Did all of the blades of each prop match each other?
This may have been answered by the results of a previous question but what made you check in the first place.
Thanks

ICDEDPPL 01-22-2023 05:09 PM

Not new, at $12k/set new I`m in the used market.
Not sure if there was a question in there but I have cleaver props, it`s not going to be relevant to your bravo stuff.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f045ce7a15.jpg


PQ290Enticer 01-23-2023 07:54 AM

Wow!!! Very Nice!!! I remember a photo years ago I think in "Powerboat Magazine" with the basically the same pic.

Trash 01-25-2023 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4842645)
Am I measuring this right ?

Mercury is supposed to be 15* so even with a angle meter app it`s still 15*
The other seems to be 12*


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e62f69521b.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e5de0122ce.jpg


I don't think you are measuring correctly. Look at your hub reference point in the first picture. It is elevated above / past the trailing edge of the blade altering your measurement as compared to the lower picture. Imagine the hub shaft extended out another three inches. Your rake measurement would be negative based on your measuring method. This obviously would not be correct as hub length has no bearing on prop rake.

I believe prop rake is measured from mid-chord at the root (hub) extending to the tip and measured from the prop rotational axis. This gets difficult to measure with multiple compound curves associated with many props.

Brad Christy 01-25-2023 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Trash (Post 4857354)
I don't think you are measuring correctly. Look at your hub reference point in the first picture. It is elevated above / past the trailing edge of the blade altering your measurement as compared to the lower picture. Imagine the hub shaft extended out another three inches. Your rake measurement would be negative based on your measuring method. This obviously would not be correct as hub length has no bearing on prop rake.

I believe prop rake is measured from mid-chord at the root (hub) extending to the tip and measured from the prop rotational axis. This gets difficult to measure with multiple compound curves associated with many props.

Trash, Dan,

I also think these angles should be measured from the C/L of the shaft bore, not the rear face of the hub. We would all hope that face would be square to the bore, but there's no guarantee it will be.

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

green lightning 01-26-2023 08:03 AM

I was always told on a cleaver prop the rake was a measurement of the trailing edge of the prop in relation to the hub surface
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3fd7d49ba6.jpg

ICDEDPPL 01-26-2023 12:09 PM

Agreee ^^^

Brad Christy 01-26-2023 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by green lightning (Post 4857463)
I was always told on a cleaver prop the rake was a measurement of the trailing edge of the prop in relation to the hub surface
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3fd7d49ba6.jpg

Dan,

Keep in mind that, when they say, "differs from perpendicular", they are referring to a line perpendicular to the prop SHAFT. The problem you have is that you are trying to measure the angle of a line from a relatively short reference area (the hub). On a prop with an even number of blades, this will be particularly difficult, as the blade opposite will interfere with the resting of any gage longer than the diameter of the rear hub face. You obviously have 5-blade props, so that's not an issue, but you still have a fairly short reference plane to measure from, assuming that surface is perpendicular to the shaft. It would serve you well to find or have made a dummy shaft that fits the bore in your props that you can measure your rake angles from. Remember, the prop is rotating around the shaft, not the rear face of the hub.

In my world of precision machining, I have to eliminate as many sources of error as possible. These habits are hard to shake for me.

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991


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