Larry Smith Scarab
 

Could anyone please tell me the specific differences in construction lay up, materials ect,between a Larry Smith and Wellcraft Scarab(.I have my eye on the L Smith for sale on the forem).The boat will be run Hard in the Atlantic Ocean.

The Larry Smith scarabs were made in SoCal at Team Scarab
and were hand layedup in molds in SoCal.
Wellcraft Scarabs were made at Wellcraft in Sarasota Fl.
Mike J.

Aside from the geographic locations where they are made ,do you know the specific differences in the construction process.(I am very interested in the LS Scarab for sale in Canada and for my intended use of the boat need to know specific differences it and a production Scarab)

Wellcraft Scarabs were production boats, LS Scarabs were not. LS Scarabs are built and rigged much much better.

Specifically though how are they built and rigged better ?(For example ,do they have extra stringers ,are they carben fiber,are they left in the mold longer,ect,ect).I intend to run this boat HARD in the Atlantic.(Any one that has ever raced off Point Pleasant NJ knows what i am talking about ).Years ago a friend of mine had a 30 Scarab Panther that we almost broke in two out there so i just want to be sure.

Hull & deck are great, all depends on who rigged it

Kinda like this. LS designed the Scarab. LS and his team are master craftsmen and built the boats one at a time. Perfect. Expense not spared on parts or the labor to put it together.

Wellcraft licensed to build and did production runs using whomever for the labor, none being a master craftsmen to the likes of Team Scarab. The Corporate mindset drove the cost of materials and labor at Wellcraft.

The two different brands of Scarabs are like comparing apples to oranges. They really are not comparable. My Scarab is a Wellcraft Scarab, I like it but drool and dream of a LS Scarab someday. Kinda like who do you want to build your Nextel Cup racer, Hendrick Motorsport, or Bob's Racers?

I have been gone all week, I have info on the 26LS Scarabs from 1st to Stright bottom What is the hull ID # Mine is the 4th
one The first was made for Tom Gentry and the last time I checked it was still in Hawaii.
Most of the Team Scarab LS Hulls were made by the same person and his crew his name is Ruddy Munez and he lives
close by my home in the Hi-Desert of SoCal.
The 26 Boats were rigged both at team Scarab or by some of
the best Riggers in the business.
There are records of the Building of each hull but they are in
storage and I do not have access to them, Lets first start with
the ID # My ID Starts with SQE101----88 and It should be one the Stbd rear, There is also another place the number is that
is glassed in side the boat.
Mike J.

:D Sounds like the difference beteween an LS Scarab and a Wellcraft Scarab are like the difference between a Pachanga and a Wellcraft!

Had ta throw this punch. I read so many threads about how the Wellcraft Scarabs are so wonderfully problem free from a few on here! I would love to hear from someone who has had a hull or structural stability problem from a Pachanga that was properly maintained and not left sitting out to rot!

The lay up difference of the fiberglass is night an day. The decks are different. The weight is probally 1/3 less on the L/S.

[QUOTE=pachanga;2190161]:D Sounds like the difference beteween an LS Scarab and a Wellcraft Scarab are like the difference between a Pachanga and a Wellcraft!



Yeah:rolleyes: Cause Pachangas have been so successful on the race course over the years compared to Scarabs, both LS and built by Wellcraft.

As a note about the 26 Step bottoms F1 Race Boats, The hull and decks were made at Team Scarab and the hull and decks
were glassed togeather 100 persent and then shipped to wellcraft to be rigged.
The same mold was used but the steps were added to the mold and as far as I know No boats have been made since then.
Mike J.

[QUOTE=scarabman;2190429]I never heard of Searay trying to get in the racing business! The only proof I needed was the poor quality I saw in all the Wellcraft boats I looked at(as well as others). I am not trying to knock you guys. But the Pachanga I bought was the 1st boat I drove that didn't feel like it was gonna bust all to pieces when ya hit another boat's wake or whatever! Here I was sitting in a 20 year old boat that was solid as a rock! The craftmanship just oozed out of it! I am certain it is not the fastest boat out there. But it is definitely onna the better built boats out there! :D

Its great that you are impressed with your boat, we should all love our toys, but my suggestion would be drive more boats.:p

Once again could ,does anyone know specifically the differences (in depth)between the two .)For example how are they layed up differently,what difference in materials Kevlar,Carben Fiber if any are used ?Are extra stringers used.Are they left in the mold longer?Is the rigging job different ,if so how? Is the marine hardware different if so how?ECT,ECT,ECT.For my intended use of this boat all the above is extremely relevant.

PS for example i realize the LSBoats are made in Calif and are lighter.What exactly makes them lighter (omitting the cabin and luxury items OR construction material differences ECT.

Joe , theres a million old busted boats out there. Buy one.

Reddeath I agree with Hunster, You keep asking the same Question, Team Scarab builds custom Hi-Performance boats
not production boats of the 26s built from 85 to 2002 that I
have records of in front of me NO two were the same they were all built oneoff.
So Im closing up my box and putting it back in storage.
I think you should by a used "Pachanga" Good Luck
Mike J.

Thats funny right there!!! I don't care what U say!!!:evilb:

I realize they(Larry Smith) builds CUSTOM high performance boats, but NO ONE so far has told me the exact differences from the PRODUCTION WELLCRAFT .Hunster your too funny .You know exactly how i plan to run this boat.(I just want to make sure its as well built if not better then my old Sutphen which was not exactly a production boat )

Reddeath, take a look at page 3, thread "how many people have Larry Smith Scarabs". There you have some info like layup, construction, material, VIN-nr etc.. /Mange

[QUOTE=pachanga;2190767]Patchy, why is it you float around the scarab posts making lame remarks about durability of these boats? I see 6 posts in the sea ray forum, why not start your own buzz there, with that massive contigency of ray owners? All 6...............:D

Because he's floating a turd.Doesn't matter how much HP you bolt on to a turd,it's still a turd.

He's obviuosly been up against a Scarab or two and they flushed that turd right down the stool.

I am pretty sure it wasnt quality he felt oozing out of the boat, it was most likely diarhea:D

ill tell you what i got a ls scarab that will put whatever your p.o.s. is down for the count, so just bring it to loto

Ha ha ha! Let's see some of your 43LS! Love these boats. Did Team Scarab ever build "pleasure" boats in the 38-46ft range? Mange

heres a pic of it, i got sum more but not on this computer i will put them on here this weekend, its got 6's and 1100's

Guys it turns out that the Canadian broker who has this LSmith is eager to move it AT A FAIR PRICE before the long winter sets in, (this particular boat has been forsale forever).Picture wise it almost shows new.Within a few weeks i will head north to check it out. Is there anything special-problem wise(indicative of a LarrySmith ) i should have the marine surveyer look at?.The boat is running a set of staggered Merc 1000s detuned to 900s (six drives) so i assume it should easily run an honest 100mph no cabin ect on a non stepped hull.

Good Afternoon Sir,
i have a all red 26' larry smith that was built in 1988 for one of the McQuiny brothers in Sunset Aquatic. I wanted to see if you knew any info on it.

Thank You

http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forum...ghlight=scarab

The red one shown in this thread... Says its an 89 but the vin says 88.

What are you looking to find out ? I have the original molds and have worked with Larry for the past 20+ years[ATTACH=CONFIG]544795[/ATTACH] This the new one we built. We can't use the Scarab name because Wellcraft own the rights.

I just wanted to know a little back story, if theres is any, on this particular 26 boat. Layup, etc... Anything would be greatly appreciated.

Wow, so you never got teh answer your were looking for nor bought the boat since posting in 2007?!:faint2: