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502ss 02-27-2008 05:24 AM

Weight of the older 30' s-types
 
I am wondering if anyone has any idea what the mid 80's 30' s-types weighed in at? Any chance someone has an old spec sheet from back then. Mine has big blocks which were not a factory option but I already know the weight difference between small and big blocks so I am wondering what the boat weighed with small blocks. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jammin' 02-27-2008 06:31 AM

It depends on how much water they've soaked up:cool-smiley-027:.

Rookie 02-27-2008 12:14 PM

6400

http://www.nadaguides.com/default.as...R&d=1600199878

502ss 02-27-2008 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 2462474)

How accurate do you think that is? I am also assuming that is dry weight.

Kims 02-27-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by 502ss (Post 2462759)
How accurate do you think that is? I am also assuming that is dry weight.

I used that weight for my Scarab and later took it to the scales and found it dead on.

502ss 02-27-2008 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Kims (Post 2462804)
I used that weight for my Scarab and later took it to the scales and found it dead on.

Great! I will run with that then! :D

Westcoast 02-27-2008 04:53 PM

6500 dry

150x7=1050 gas + 200-400 for gear

puts it at just under 8000 wet (heavy)

Kims 02-27-2008 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Westcoast (Post 2462954)
puts it at just under 8000 wet (heavy)

Simply what makes it the best in the big waves.... It still is a lot easier to add power to an engine than to add strenght to a hull...

scarabfun 02-27-2008 10:23 PM

couldn't agree more.

senzaspectre 03-04-2008 04:45 PM

Yes, thats correct 6400#...........

502ss 03-04-2008 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by senzaspectre (Post 2471080)
Yes, thats correct 6400#...........

I knew someone would have an ad from that timeframe! Your the man!

Thanks :D

502ss 05-22-2010 04:15 PM

So now that the boat is all back together I took it to the scales to weigh it? :eek:

2007 avalanche, 30' scarab with big blocks, tri-axle alum trailer, and 40 gallons of gas.......15780 lbs.

Just boat and trailer........9540 lbs.

Guess it's time for a 2500 series pickup :(

areyouliving 05-24-2010 05:47 PM

I thought I read somewhere that these boats weighed somewhere around 8000lbs dry. I believe there was a just a discussion that the Panthers were 6400lbs. Kevlar boats right?
I tow mine with a 3/4 ton truck and can't imagine what it would be like with something lighter. I also don't have an aluminum trailer though.

Rookie 05-25-2010 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by areyouliving (Post 3118706)
I believe there was a just a discussion that the Panthers were 6400lbs. Kevlar boats right?

My Panther is fiberglass and I believe it to be 6400 dry. I pull it with my GMC 1500, Aluminum trailer @ 12.7mpg.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...2one/truck.jpg

502ss 05-25-2010 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 3119465)
My Panther is fiberglass and I believe it to be 6400 dry. I pull it with my GMC 1500, Aluminum trailer @ 12.7mpg.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...2one/truck.jpg


So i don't get it, how does a panther only weigh 6400 dry, be fiberglass and look identical to mine, where is mine carrying the extra 1600 lbs?

Rookie 05-25-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by 502ss (Post 3119494)
So i don't get it, how does a panther only weigh 6400 dry, be fiberglass and look identical to mine, where is mine carrying the extra 1600 lbs?

I believed that my Panther weighed the advertised 6400 dry. I do not believe that my boat weighs much less than yours, if any at all. I have no Idea what my trailer weighs 2000lb?? 400 in gas 120 in batteries interior and misc crap. I do not believe it to be a light boat. :)

502ss 05-25-2010 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 3119526)
I believed that my Panther weighed the advertised 6400 dry. I do not believe that my boat weighs much less than yours, if any at all. I have no Idea what my trailer weighs 2000lb?? 400 in gas 120 in batteries interior and misc crap. I do not believe it to be a light boat. :)

There not called wave crushers for nothing! Is that hatch custom or did the panthers come with a single hatch that is hinged from the rear?

I don't think I have seen many pics of your boat, you should post some! I would love to see more! :drink:

LeeS 05-25-2010 10:55 PM

Looking right at an 84 catalog, 6400lbs. Fuel capacity 150 gal, water capacity 8 gal. If your boat and trailer weighed in at 9450 I would question how much fuel and water on board, AND the weight of the trailer, plus the accuracy of the scales, and if the trailer was still hitched to the truck, it would seem that depending on the tongue weight setup some of that weight might be transferred back to the boat and trailer.
Plus any incidentals that might be on board the boat.
Also big blocks were the standard option that year, not small blocks so 6400 would be the weight with big blocks.
And I just read the restoration thread, you are my new hero, magnificent job!

wjb21ndtown 05-25-2010 11:34 PM

Rookie, I don't know how yours is equipped, but from what I understand most Panthers didn't have pumpout heads, frigerators, etc. They generally had sparse cabins with few amenities. It's easy to drop quite a few hundred pounds when you're chucking things out of the cabin.

Also, is the beam of the Panther less than the beam of the reg. 30' Scarab?

DareDevil 05-25-2010 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by Westcoast (Post 2462954)
6500 dry

150x7=1050 gas + 200-400 for gear

puts it at just under 8000 wet (heavy)

i agree , the 6400 is dry weight !!

DareDevil 05-25-2010 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by 502ss (Post 3119494)
So i don't get it, how does a panther only weigh 6400 dry, be fiberglass and look identical to mine, where is mine carrying the extra 1600 lbs?

In all the plywood !!!!!!!!

areyouliving 05-27-2010 07:30 PM

Daredevil, Holycrap you're back! Nice to see you posting again!
Bill

BenPerfected 05-29-2010 08:31 PM

It depends on the drives. A TRS boat will weight a lot more. I think dry is closer to 8000 lbs. Our boat today is close to 9000 lbs. dry.


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