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oliverm5 04-02-2008 04:26 PM

Scarab SCS Project
 
Newbie to the boards here, usead to be on the Hotboat forums until they killed it....anyways, bought my SCS sight unseen from a guy in Portland who towed it down to Southern Cali for me. When I first saw it, the exterior/interior were much worst than I had thought, and I had a project on my hands!

Took the whole boat apart, redid everything (had the paint and upholstery outsourced). Lots of blood, sweat, and tears, but it came out looking sick! Here's the finished product:

Blown 502, 650 HP

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Prostreeter 04-02-2008 04:40 PM

Welcome to OSO and our little SCS brotherhood:D
There are 5 or 6 SCS owners here so have fun and speak up.

I've seen your boat on Hotboat before.Used to go over there once in a while and look around.Very nice boat you have.Are those graphics or painted on blue type of flames?
What boost are you running on that 502?

I have a brand new Procharger still in the box in my garage.Bought January of last year.The plan is to install it this spring if I can get away from other projects.

oliverm5 04-02-2008 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=Prostreeter;2510585]Are those graphics or painted on blue type of flames?
What boost are you running on that 502?
QUOTE]

Thanks for the welcome...all paint, 5-6 pounds boost on the blower....

GoFastSonic 04-02-2008 04:45 PM

awsome scs I used to have one great boat

oliverm5 04-02-2008 05:07 PM

Only kink in the boat is that I get some chine walk around 80 - 85 mph. Using a 30p bravo one on an XR drive. Any ideas? Some shops have told me that the hull is not made to handle much more speed and that I should give up trying to go faster.

Have Dana 1000 tabs, but the shave speed off as soon as they hit the water....

BY U BOY 04-02-2008 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by oliverm5 (Post 2510612)
Only kink in the boat is that I get some chine walk around 80 - 85 mph. Using a 30p bravo one on an XR drive. Any ideas? Some shops have told me that the hull is not made to handle much more speed and that I should give up trying to go faster.

Have Dana 1000 tabs, but the shave speed off as soon as they hit the water....

Talk to Brett at BBlades about props that will work better for that hull.

Boat looks awesome.

DrFeelgood 04-02-2008 07:19 PM

Great looking boat! Welcome :)

dana marine products 04-03-2008 10:00 AM

For a boat of that caliber (speed wise and HP) the tabs should have been mounted parallel to the water line. With the tabs being mounted following the "V" your pulling too much drag and not fixing your problem.

Parallel to the water line would solve your chine walk an take away 60 percent of the tab contact with water at high speeds. I've never had a boat slow down with the tabs set up properly.

Boat looks great.

scarabrun 04-03-2008 03:49 PM

Sweet
 
Wow Very Nice Boat,,welcome To Our House

Colorado26AO 04-04-2008 12:26 AM

WOW, that has got to be the coolest SCS I have ever seen! I have owned one for the last 5 years and have loved every minute of it. I just sold mine today and will be buying a cat for the same reason that Oliver talked about with the Chine at 80. I ran a stock 454 at Havasu and was able to get mine to about 79. The hulls are definitely great for taking rough water, but there is only so much speed a 23 deep V can handle before it becomes a white knuckle express. I have raced and beat many a Baja in that boat just stock. If I were to have kept my boat, I would love to have done it up just like Olivers!
One thing that would be really cool is to add the blue steering wheel like what I have on mine... Here is the link...

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o21954-en.html

Colorado26AO 04-04-2008 12:33 AM

Hey PROSTREETER-- I remember racing around chatfield with you last summer, it was fun to race my own boat and to watch it in the water running down the lake. That 502 was just enough for you to beat my 454. You better put that procharger on this spring, cuz your going to need it when I drop a 598 in the American Offshore i am buying... See you out on the Lake this summer!

Prostreeter 04-04-2008 07:36 AM

That was you:p

Funny how we remember things a little different.My recolection of the race was you were well over a 1/2 mile behind me by the time I had to throttle down.That 502 mag is FAST!!All BS aside,where did your SCS end up going to? That was a nice,well kept boat.Looks like I'll have the only SCS in the state now.

OK,guess I'll need to schedule some time this month to put the supercharger on.See ya at the lake.BTW.....Welcome to OSO.

oliverm5 04-04-2008 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Colorado26AO (Post 2512478)
WOW, that has got to be the coolest SCS I have ever seen! I have owned one for the last 5 years and have loved every minute of it. I just sold mine today and will be buying a cat for the same reason that Oliver talked about with the Chine at 80. I ran a stock 454 at Havasu and was able to get mine to about 79. The hulls are definitely great for taking rough water, but there is only so much speed a 23 deep V can handle before it becomes a white knuckle express. I have raced and beat many a Baja in that boat just stock. If I were to have kept my boat, I would love to have done it up just like Olivers!
One thing that would be really cool is to add the blue steering wheel like what I have on mine... Here is the link...

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o21954-en.html

Thanks man! Your boat looks awesome as well....great price too...looks clean...

502SCS 04-05-2008 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by dana marine products (Post 2511483)
For a boat of that caliber (speed wise and HP) the tabs should have been mounted parallel to the water line. With the tabs being mounted following the "V" your pulling too much drag and not fixing your problem.

Parallel to the water line would solve your chine walk an take away 60 percent of the tab contact with water at high speeds. I've never had a boat slow down with the tabs set up properly.

Boat looks great.

Very Nice boat !!

Hey Dana ....
Do you recoment your tabs mounted parallel to the waterline for ALL of us SCS guys? Do you have a picture of what position they shold e mounted on one that has never had tabs?

Hey Don .. Send me an email and tell me what happend on your boat sale..

502SCS 04-05-2008 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by dana marine products (Post 2511483)
For a boat of that caliber (speed wise and HP) the tabs should have been mounted parallel to the water line. With the tabs being mounted following the "V" your pulling too much drag and not fixing your problem.

Parallel to the water line would solve your chine walk an take away 60 percent of the tab contact with water at high speeds. I've never had a boat slow down with the tabs set up properly.

Boat looks great.

Very Nice boat !!

Hey Dana ....
Do you recoment your tabs mounted parallel to the waterline for ALL of us SCS guys? Do you have a picture of what position they shold e mounted on one that has never had tabs?

dana marine products 04-07-2008 10:41 AM

In performance boating there's no one answer to cover different installations.

The main thing to consider is, what do you want from your tabs? Are you just trying to run top end speed? or are you trying to pull your kids wakeboarding?

There's alot of variables to your specifications that would lead to the answer as to how to mount your tabs. You can give me a call if you want to go over it.

951-279-5005
Bob

freshwaterfiend 04-11-2008 06:30 PM

Oliver,

Your boat is awesome and the reason why I went and bought my SCS last year!

Guys I've been looking at tabs and Dana say that you need to go with their HP series because the LT's aren't strong enough for speeds over 70mph. Nor are they all that in rough water- the main reason that I want them.

Oliver, why did you go for the long tabs over the shorter ones? That's a lot of tab in a 23 footer.

oliverm5 04-11-2008 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by freshwaterfiend (Post 2522229)

Oliver, why did you go for the long tabs over the shorter ones? That's a lot of tab in a 23 footer.

Tabs were on the boat when I bought it, they work great...

502SCS 04-12-2008 07:08 AM

Going to the St. Johns River Poker Run today!!
Should be big fun
http://orlando.metromix.com/events/b...372296/content

viper17 08-15-2012 06:34 PM

Anyone looking to sell their scs?

FogduckerIII 08-15-2012 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by viper17 (Post 3754927)
Anyone looking to sell their scs?

Mine is for sale, details here, contact me here for a "fire-sale" price....thanks. [email protected]

Jeremy

http://www.usedcowichan.com/classifi...ailer_15883484

KN 08-15-2012 07:12 PM

Great looking boat, what the hull like on these boats? Deadrise? Pad? Notched Transon? Steps?

FogduckerIII 08-15-2012 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by KN (Post 3754961)
Great looking boat, what the hull like on these boats? Deadrise? Pad? Notched Transon? Steps?

Don't quote me but I believe the deadrise is 22*, Delta pad, I think I know what you mean by "notched transom" yes, no steps......rock solid ride, not sure how true it is but tole Kevlar or partial Kevlar hull and composite stringers......I will sell this for a song, health issues.............:daz:

scarabscs 09-08-2012 08:06 AM

What is the top speed anyone has been able to get out of the hull. I have had my 502 worked and the best I can get it 82. I can turn a 29 pitch prop at 5000 RPM and dont get anymore speed than turning a 25 pitch prop at the same RPM. Any suggestions.

scarabman 09-09-2012 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by scarabscs (Post 3772271)
What is the top speed anyone has been able to get out of the hull. I have had my 502 worked and the best I can get it 82. I can turn a 29 pitch prop at 5000 RPM and dont get anymore speed than turning a 25 pitch prop at the same RPM. Any suggestions.

What is your drive gear ratio? 1.36?

Where does your rev limiter kick in?

scarabscs 09-10-2012 01:29 PM

Not sure on the drive ratio. He was supposed to set the rev limiter to 6000. It doesn't sound like I am hitting it though.

scarabman 09-10-2012 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by scarabscs (Post 3773549)
Not sure on the drive ratio. He was supposed to set the rev limiter to 6000. It doesn't sound like I am hitting it though.

Assuming the 2 props you mentioned are the same type, it is very difficult to figure why you would run out of steam at 5000 rpm with each unless it was something mechanical. If you have the HP to turn the 29 to 5000 you should be turning the 25 to well into the mid to high 5000s.

Drive ratio is critical for helping to determine a prop. For instance, if you are really turning a 25 to 5000 rpm and achieving a speed of 82, you must have a 1.36 drive ratio as with a 1.5 at that pich and rpm you would only be able to run in the mid to low 70s

scarabscs 09-11-2012 04:21 AM

It doesn't make sense to me either. The 82 is under perfect conditions, 1 foot chop half a tank of fuel and no passengers cool day. Probably was hitting 5100 to 5200 RPM. I have tried 27 29 and even a four blade 32. Every prop got me around 5100 except the 32. Best I could get was 4800 out of it. Out of all of them the GPS stayed in the high 70's to low 80's.


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