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TDSracing 09-06-2008 06:16 PM

Different style 38's?
 
I have a 30 Scarab II on LOTO and I am thinking about moving to a larger boat. How would a 38 handle the rough water? What are the diferent styles of Scarab 38's and how do they differ? I am looking a little older as money is a factor.

scarab kv 09-06-2008 06:34 PM

Can't beat the ride. Some criticize them for their weight and refer to them as wave smashers, but I'll take that when the going is rough. Kamma 38s were an earlier version of the KVs. The KVs were built until 88. In 89 the euro styled 38s went into production.

phughes69 09-06-2008 09:12 PM

You had 3 different kinds of 38's that were built up untill the late 80. T he first one that came out was a raised deck version that you could get with staggered drives. The second kind was also a raised deck that came with side by side motors. The third kind was the flat deck ( sometimes refered to as the Kamma version) that ONLY came with side by side motors. All three of these kinds of boats had the same lower hull design, just different deck configurations. Most of the 38's had a side by side bolster seat up front. The seperated bolster seats did not come around untill about 86. The early 38's went by the names of 377. 377 SE, Kamma. Only a couple of the early (80 or 81) hulls had a notch in the transom. Board member 38KV has one of the few boats that has a notch. Around 86 Wellcraft renamed the flat deck 377 SE to 38KV. The hulls are identical ( except for a few that had the transom notch). 1988 was the last year for the 38KV with the flat deck, after this Wellcraft went to the Euro design called the Excel with the more rounded dash fairing. Sometime after this they came out with the Thunder series.

frankenstein 09-07-2008 01:39 AM

I don't have expert opinions, but the 38 will handle the water way better than the 30. I think if you research that, you'll agree. WOW. Sorry, just pointing out the obvious

frankenstein 09-07-2008 01:41 AM

100% breaking balls. Good luck

Michael Garibay 09-09-2008 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 2677045)
I don't have expert opinions, but the 38 will handle the water way better than the 30. I think if you research that, you'll agree. WOW. Sorry, just pointing out the obvious

I'll tell you from my personal experiance- my 38' Scarab (1998) does ride better than a 31' Scarab(1993), but not a HUGE difference like you would think. The difference was huge going from my 22' Scarab (1995) to my 31'. Obviously we are talking about a 3250 lb single > 8400 lb twin vs. a 8400 twin>10200 lb twin, but I have ridden in other large boats (such as a 28' Nordic) and can say that the 31' Scarab was WAAAAY better.

TDSracing 09-11-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 2677045)
I don't have expert opinions, but the 38 will handle the water way better than the 30. I think if you research that, you'll agree. WOW. Sorry, just pointing out the obvious

OUCH, :) I guess I SHOULD have said comparing not just the lenght but hull design.
VS, it and others. But I like what I have heard like I can go older and still get the same bottom hull.

scarab kv 09-11-2008 06:51 PM

Racing hull
 

Originally Posted by TDSracing (Post 2682820)
OUCH, :) I guess I SHOULD have said comparing not just the lenght but hull design.
VS, it and others. But I like what I have heard like I can go older and still get the same bottom hull.


Was a well proven race hull. Was never any need to change it.

Noogster 09-12-2008 01:49 PM

From the boats I have onwned pachanga 32, formula 242, scorpion 230 ltd, scarab 30s and now a 377 i must stay that the scarabs are by far the best ones. The 377 is a awesom wavechrusher.... I am thinking of trading up to an apache but I dont know if its worth the money......

TDSracing 09-22-2008 08:50 PM

One last question, would a 34 Scarab III be worth looking at? Or stick with the 38?

scarab kv 09-22-2008 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by TDSracing (Post 2694075)
One last question, would a 34 Scarab III be worth looking at? Or stick with the 38?


Spent a lot of time on a Scarab III. They're a good boat. Between the two I have to say I prefer my KV.

phughes69 09-23-2008 12:22 AM

From what I have heard some of the Scarab III's had a hook in the bottom so they would not be as fast with the same power. If you are comparing the Scarab III to a raised deck 38 scarab the cabins look to be about the same size so it really boils down to price and overall condition.


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