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FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 07:28 AM

38 Larry Smith just don’t use
 
Thinking of letting this go

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 07:37 AM

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FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 08:06 AM

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SecondWind 08-21-2025 08:36 AM

Beautiful boat!!!

wakebum2507 08-21-2025 09:09 AM

PM sent

Padraig 08-21-2025 10:03 AM

Curious...Who built the engines?

Padraig

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by wakebum2507 (Post 4933151)
PM sent

wakebum sorry if i sent you two pm's im new to this

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Padraig (Post 4933155)
Curious...Who built the engines?

Padraig

Competition marine!!

Padraig 08-21-2025 11:38 AM

Love the Velocity stacks on the engines. Looks and I imagine...sounds bad! Just a beautiful boat.

PadrIg

scippy 08-21-2025 12:02 PM

and probably fresh water use?....are those SSM3's .....looks mint!

F-2 Speedy 08-21-2025 12:12 PM

Looks like # 4 or 5's on boxes ?............location and asking price, asking for a friend............

wakebum2507 08-21-2025 12:38 PM

5's on boxes

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by scippy (Post 4933164)
and probably fresh water use?....are those SSM3's .....looks mint!

Yes fresh water its whole life, they are #5's

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4933166)
Looks like # 4 or 5's on boxes ?............location and asking price, asking for a friend............

Speedy i am in Missouri..... can your friend spend 130?

F-2 Speedy 08-21-2025 01:32 PM

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TeamSaris 08-21-2025 02:26 PM

ive never wanted something more.Fin Gorgeous stacks.
F2 larry Smith Scarab's are all competition lay up i believe. Larry Smith is to Scarab what AMG is to Benz. Just better.

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4933181)
ive never wanted something more.Fin Gorgeous stacks.
F2 larry Smith Scarab's are all competition lay up i believe. Larry Smith is to Scarab what AMG is to Benz. Just better.

TeamSaris i believe you are correct. this one was laid up at Westerly in California, vinyl ester i do believe.

Padraig 08-21-2025 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4933181)
ive never wanted something more.Fin Gorgeous stacks.
F2 larry Smith Scarab's are all competition lay up i believe. Larry Smith is to Scarab what AMG is to Benz. Just better.

Should have had you guys put stacks on mine, when you did the build. LOL.

Man I love that Scarab.

Padraig

larslindroth 08-21-2025 04:14 PM

FAST STACKS, it by far exceeded my expectations. Not sure how many Larry Smith Scarab boats around now in Missouri, but when the previous owner of

my 31 was there in 2013, he saw the well-known 1994 'Bad Habit' 38 and a second white one with a lot less paint. Yours is in a class of its own i.m.h.o.,

though 'Bad Habit' is a supposedly well into the triple digit WOT boat, it's not classy in the same way as yours. Whoever is privileged enough to purchase

Your boat, probably won't sell it for a long time. These were super rare new, and they're still around, but often tucked away for years instead of moving to

the next caretaker. It's sad in so many ways. Hat's off to You for putting it on the market for a very advantageous asking price.


FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4933174)
Not sure but I'll find out, whats the layup of the hull, I dont know the brand...... what trans are you running ?

EDIT: never mind he has Champagne taste on a beer budget............

LOL!!! I am open to offers!! you just never know..

FAST STACKS 08-21-2025 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by larslindroth (Post 4933190)
FAST STACKS, it by far exceeded my expectations. Not sure how many Larry Smith Scarab boats around now in Missouri, but when the previous owner of

my 31 was there in 2013, he saw the well-known 1994 'Bad Habit' 38 and a second white one with a lot less paint. Yours is in a class of its own i.m.h.o.,

though 'Bad Habit' is a supposedly well into the triple digit WOT boat, it's not classy in the same way as yours. Whoever is privileged enough to purchase

Your boat, probably won't sell it for a long time. These were super rare new, and they're still around, but often tucked away for years instead of moving to

the next caretaker. It's sad in so many ways. Hat's off to You for putting it on the market for a very advantageous asking price.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zQMrJcUbsx0

Lars thanks you for all the kind words , Bad Habit was the first Larry Smith i laid eyes on and i new i had to have one , but like you said its time for a new care taker.

hblair 08-21-2025 08:00 PM

Wow awesome looking and sounding boat

cheech 08-21-2025 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by FAST STACKS (Post 4933159)
Competition marine!!

What they dyno at?

Like that cantilever front bolster design.
Nothing to rack your toes into.

cougarman 08-22-2025 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by FAST STACKS (Post 4933146)
Thinking of letting this go

What year is she?
Beautiful Larry Smith, looks near perfect & unused.
Nice 👌

FAST STACKS 08-22-2025 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by cheech (Post 4933207)
What they dyno at?

Like that cantilever front bolster design.
Nothing to rack your toes into.

Cheech they dyno at 880 hp i will check on torque numbers..

FAST STACKS 08-22-2025 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 4933222)
What year is she?
Beautiful Larry Smith, looks near perfect & unused.
Nice 👌

Its a 2001 i am the second owner, i have not used it once in the last 2 years, and yes it is dam near perfect!!!

scippy 08-22-2025 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by FAST STACKS (Post 4933228)
Its a 2001 i am the second owner, i have not used it once in the last 2 years, and yes it is dam near perfect!!!

How do you keep 2 year old fuel fresh?....I have a bit more time on my fuel was going to fuel polish it, but decided to pump it all out.

MonkeySea2 08-22-2025 11:22 AM

that is a nice looking boat. I've never actually seen one in person

FAST STACKS 08-22-2025 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by scippy (Post 4933239)
How do you keep 2 year old fuel fresh?....I have a bit more time on my fuel was going to fuel polish it, but decided to pump it all out.

Scippy the tanks were almost empty the last time i had it out so i put 10 gallons of 110 in each tank and went to the ramp and put it on the trailer, when i got back to the shop i pumped out the rest that was left in the tanks, last week i put fresh fuel in it and she fired rite up and idles with no issues so i hope i'm good..

hogie roll 08-22-2025 12:18 PM

Anymore engine details? Heads, cams cubes? You can PM me

FAST STACKS 08-22-2025 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4933245)
Anymore engine details? Heads, cams cubes? You can PM me

hogue pm sent

jeff32 08-22-2025 10:07 PM

Ok
i get the larry smith hull built
but what model 38 is it? A special larry smith design or a 38 kv?

FAST STACKS 08-23-2025 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4933280)
Ok
i get the larry smith hull built
but what model 38 is it? A special larry smith design or a 38 kv?

Larry Smith design,38 kv’s are different hopefully Lars chime’s in he seems to know more about them..

hogie roll 08-23-2025 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4933280)
Ok
i get the larry smith hull built
but what model 38 is it? A special larry smith design or a 38 kv?

Same mold but built to a higher standard iirc. Dan archer would know for sure.

larslindroth 08-23-2025 01:34 PM

The hull is the same on this Team Scarab 38 by Larry Smith, as the one he designed for the contemporary 38 AVS, except it's a traditional straight v-hull without vented steps.

I don't have the experience to explain how much better a straight hull on the Scarab 38 handles really big power compared to one with vented steps, but it's supposed to

almost be a necessity if one wants to run into the triple digits, according to the ones in the know. The hull sides design was changed on the newer 38s, like these, compared

to the old 38s, to obtain an even stronger structure. Dan MacNamara, who runs Team Archer Marine in Huntington Beach is the one who by far has the most knowledge

with regards to the Larry Smith Scarab designs. He both restores, upgrades, re-rigs, and completes some of the few new Team Scarab boats around. I bet he'll chime in

after the LOTO Shootout.


Here's an article below from 2001 with regards to the Wellcraft 38 AVS. The boat priced out at $253,000, so with the much more expensive materials and the custom work to

build the 2002 Larry Smith we're looking at here, I would be surprised if this boat came in under $500,000 new, probably quite a bit more. The construction hours to build at

this level of strength and attention to detail are not for the faint of heart.

https://www.boats.com/reviews/speed-merchant/

jeff32 08-23-2025 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4933299)
Same mold but built to a higher standard iirc. Dan archer would know for sure.

that was my guess... thanks!

larslindroth 08-24-2025 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4933299)
Same mold but built to a higher standard iirc. Dan archer would know for sure.


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4933314)
that was my guess... thanks!

The hull design of the 38 KV, and this is, like I explained, different, so not the same mold. The KV has a unique hull side design, whereas this
has the convex hull sides of say the Wellcraft 377 and later 38s. Take a close look at the 38 KV and notice it.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e2efe02e89.jpg

Team Archer 09-09-2025 03:54 PM

All of Larry's 38s are from the same mold. The 38s that Wellcraft built are from a mold built from a plug out of the Team Scarab mold as the years went by, they changed sides by filling in the body line that was about 8 inches below the gunnel molding and then when the AVS came out it was an insert to the original mold that is why the AVS hull sides are about 4nches shorter than the straight bottom boats. The 38 KV is the original 38 race deck that Wellcraft modified to make the KV deck after Larry came out with the wedge deck 38 to match the 46 and 43 cockpits which were wider than the original 38 race cockpit..


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