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Old 06-08-2005 | 02:49 PM
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Still haven't done the wheel/tire upgrade on the EX but I did do some things that you fellow EX owners might like to hear about.

I've been unhappy with the way the truck liked to go its own way- once it started to wander to one side or the other, it usually took an over-correction to get it back. Alot of the time, if the road was dished, I'd end up wandering from stripe to stripe.

I took a couple of your suggestions and installed the Hellwig rear sway bar. I talked to Hellwig and it seems like the front bar they offer is just about the same as the stocker. While I was under there, I replaced the stock shocks with a set of Edelbrock's. They were about $400 for the set but worth every penny. The truck tracks straihgt as an arrow and on one badly worn and dished piece of highway I end up on frequently, it went straight as an arrow. Rides a bunch better too. Best part though is everything from lane changes to tight bends are WAY more solid. It's like a whole different truck.

Took less than 2 hours in my driveway- the toughest part about changing the fronts is removing the tires.
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Old 06-10-2005 | 07:43 PM
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now this helps
found this site just in time
I just bought a 2000 Ex with the V10
84,000 miles
It does seem to wander, but not any more then what my suburban did.
I am not sure if the shocks are original, but I plan on changing them anyway. Was also goin ot order the rear sway from Hellwig.
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What model of shocks did you go with?
I was thinking of gettin the Bilstien shocks. but I also notice that Rancho are on some stock ford supy duty trucks.
Naother ? is that i am getting some noise from what seems to be the transmission.
It only happens under power at low speed in first or 2nd. 3rd it is either I cannot hear it from the higher speeds and road noise or it is not there.
It does NOT happen when coasting. and not all the time when under power.
Basically it sounds like a peice of tin sheet metal rattling.
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Old 06-10-2005 | 08:45 PM
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I looked at every shock and bought the Edelbrocks. The biggest thing was their speed/load sensitive valving. I have Ranchos on my Tahoe and they are a very good shock but the Edelbrock is far superior- at least with a few days driving on them. If they head south after a year's use, my opinion would probably change but it's not like they're an off-brand.

My guess would be the catalytic convertor heat shield is what you're hearing. That's a pretty common thing
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Old 06-10-2005 | 11:47 PM
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Havent tried the Edlebrocks, but I run some pretty expensive Bilstiens with reseviours that you can adjust the dampening rate on them. You can also take them into the shop where I bought them and have them add or remove nitrogen from them. They look good too, brushed alum finish, no paint to go bad or wear off. The new Ranchos with the res. are very good shocks too. They can be adjusted as well. I was told that they make Edlebrocks shocks anyhow. (they almost look identical just a different paint color) If you like the looks of the Edlebrock and can get a good price on them I'm sure they are good shocks, every brand makes cheap shocks and they all have their expensive line too, don't buy the cheap ones in anybody's line. You be regretting it later. I've been through some cheaper Procomps and some Rancho 5000's, they couldn't hold up to the weight of the Powerstroke in the front end. Personally I would get the Bilstiens, they are the real deal, very expensive but worth every penny.
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Old 06-11-2005 | 08:52 AM
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Chris, thanks. But I would like to know what model or style Edlebrocks.
There are a couple options.
Hte Bilstiens I am looking at are $65 each. I do not see me spending the hundreds each for the resivior units. Not as a daily driver with towing only in the summer.
I have checked all the heat shields nad they are tight .
I have even jacked the entire truck off the grounf and ran it. Does not do it.
Seems to only happen under a load or torgue scenerio
Really hate to pay the $$$ to have someone else lok for something that is obviously there
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Old 06-11-2005 | 02:24 PM
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2000-03 Excursion (All Engines)
2WD 33225**-34225**
4WD 33224-34224

Above are the part numbers for Edelbrock Performer IAS- unless I'm reading the chart wrong, it's the only shock they offer. Got them from Summit Racing

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...cks_main.shtml

I have had the adjustable shocks before but who wants to crawl under there all the time? Rancho has a remote system but it's big $$. Reservoir shocks are fantastic for offroading where heat-induced fade becomes an issue but "offroad" to me is a field or gravel driveway.
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Old 06-11-2005 | 02:29 PM
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I have checked all the heat shields nad they are tight .
I have even jacked the entire truck off the grounf and ran it. Does not do it.
Seems to only happen under a load or torgue scenerio
Really hate to pay the $$$ to have someone else lok for something that is obviously there

Pull your driveshaft and check your universal joints. They won't make noise under a heavy load but sometimes a dry joint will make the driveshaft "ping". You can't check a U-joint when it's bolted in- unless it's very badly worn

You don't want non-greaseable U-joints on anything, especially something that's pulling a load. Only buy Eaton or Dana - Spicer replacements and make certain the driveshaft rotation is "into the fitting" when they install them. If it's "away" from the fitting, they'll crack.
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Old 06-11-2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
2000-03 Excursion (All Engines)
2WD 33225**-34225**
4WD 33224-34224

Above are the part numbers for Edelbrock Performer IAS- unless I'm reading the chart wrong, it's the only shock they offer. Got them from Summit Racing

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...cks_main.shtml

I have had the adjustable shocks before but who wants to crawl under there all the time? Rancho has a remote system but it's big $$. Reservoir shocks are fantastic for offroading where heat-induced fade becomes an issue but "offroad" to me is a field or gravel driveway.
It seemed to me that all the middle of the road shocks wore out real quick with the Powerstroke (front shocks). Maybe with the V10 they will be fine. I think its just too much weight for them.
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Old 06-11-2005 | 04:37 PM
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Pull your driveshaft and check your universal joints. They won't make noise under a heavy load but sometimes a dry joint will make the driveshaft "ping". You can't check a U-joint when it's bolted in- unless it's very badly worn

You don't want non-greaseable U-joints on anything, especially something that's pulling a load. Only buy Eaton or Dana - Spicer replacements and make certain the driveshaft rotation is "into the fitting" when they install them. If it's "away" from the fitting, they'll crack.

I agree, I had noise and vibration when my u-joints went out. I can't believe they don't have zerk fittings on the stock ones. I changed all mine out for Dana's, no problems since, and I do grease them and all my front end parts myself. I also had a custom drive shaft made without that cv joint in it for the front drive shaft. It has u joint that has been ground down for extra clearance, I have more degrees of travel now with 1 u joint than with the stock cv joint.
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Old 06-11-2005 | 07:59 PM
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I agree, I had noise and vibration when my u-joints went out. I can't believe they don't have zerk fittings on the stock ones. I changed all mine out for Dana's, no problems since, and I do grease them and all my front end parts myself. I also had a custom drive shaft made without that cv joint in it for the front drive shaft. It has u joint that has been ground down for extra clearance, I have more degrees of travel now with 1 u joint than with the stock cv joint.

Are you talking about increased turning radius? That would be a welcome addition.
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