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Old 03-14-2006 | 11:45 AM
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Default Iron 118cc heads to aluminum 110cc , how much will comp ratio change?

I currently am using 781 large oval 118cc heads with SRP pistons that gives me a compression ratio of 9:1.
If I switch to the Edelbrocks with a 110cc what would that bump my compression ratio up to?
I assume I will be safe with the same gas I used before because of the aluminum head?
I was looking at other aluminum heads and most I am finding are 118/119cc. Wouldn’t I benefit more bumping up the compression ratio?
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Old 03-14-2006 | 06:42 PM
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What size engine ?? It will affect a 540 more than it will a 454.
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Old 03-14-2006 | 06:58 PM
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454 stroked to 496.
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Jim,
If you are at 9 to 1 now you will be at about 9.6 with the 110cc heads. Increasing the compression will help power but you are at the mercy of available fuel.
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That is pretty close, I went from 118cc to 110cc and went from 8.6 to 9.2 compresion. I alway use 91 or higher.
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Old 03-15-2006 | 06:44 AM
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Anyone want to comment on my fuel issue after bumping the compression ratio up?
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Old 03-15-2006 | 07:44 AM
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I agree you will be at about 9.6:1
The faster cooling of the aluminum heads should allow you to run the same fuel that you use with the iron heads.
That will be a nice upgrade.
What intake are you going to run?
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Old 03-15-2006 | 08:36 AM
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FYI, the last 110cc heads that were used in a build were 114cc on 1 set and 116cc on the other. You need to have them CC'd and probably milled to get a true 110cc.

I am on the conservative side, in a boat with possiblity of having to run 89 octane if you get stuck at a marina, I would run a max of 9.5ish on an aluminum headed engine and 9 to 1 on a steel headed engine. If you are going to always run good gas bump both a half of a point.
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Old 03-15-2006 | 09:47 AM
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Chris,
That is a big difference. I always thought they would be with in 1cc +/-. Where these Edelbrock heads?

I was planning on running the Air-GAP?
Any other ideas?
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Anyone want to comment on my fuel issue after bumping the compression ratio up?
Big Jim I am running a 540 NA with aluminum heads , compression ratio almost 10.1 40 degrees timing & using 89 octain fuel for 9 years. Motor runs great made 720 hp on dyno. Have built other motors similar even with efi with great success.
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