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Old 04-18-2007 | 04:31 PM
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Ok guys I'm in the process of deciding what I will use to power my next and hopefully final project.
It's a 1985 Scorpion 24' that weighs approx. 4500 - 4700 with engine, drive, fuel etc. It currently is set up with a 454 400 cyclone and TRS.

Core Requirements: 75 mph and as reliable as possible.

I want to know what would you do? I'm thinking a mean 383 or do I go 454 or 502? Give me all your input.

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Old 04-18-2007 | 04:49 PM
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There is no substitute for cubic inches.
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Old 04-18-2007 | 04:51 PM
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You will get more bang for your buck with the big block. But I am in the process of installing two 383 MPI's in my 23' Formula. I am a small block guy at heart..... comes from many years of oval racing.

There's no replacement for displacement..... except for RPM and airflow.

A 8000 RPM small block aint gonna work in a boat, so you have to supercharge it to get that kind of power.
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Cuda beat me to it. I'd go 502. BOB
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Old 04-18-2007 | 05:10 PM
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Ok.. Ok.. cubes it must be then.
I knew there was a reason those GM crate 502's kept on looking at me..!
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Old 04-18-2007 | 05:25 PM
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I have a 468 that was just freshened with all new bearings, new moly rings, oil pump and valve job. The internals are all forged and excellent parts:

Gen VI Block

JE Pistons

Scat Forged Crank

Eagle Rods

Dart Heads - Iron Eagle

Rev Valves

Crane Gold Rockers

Hydraulic lifters

Your choice of Cam

Flywheel, Aluminum timing cover and Steel Oil Pan included.

This engine is balanced, blue printed and assembled.

$ 6,200.00. More HP than a stock 454 or 502.

Kirk

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Old 04-18-2007 | 05:45 PM
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basicaly it comes down to power to weight. to move weight you need torque and that will only come from cubes. reliably anyway's. small blocks are great for say a 22 velocity or donzi. but i would think a 500 or 525 would do it with great resale and reliability.
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Old 04-18-2007 | 05:58 PM
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My 502 MPI Mag ... 500 EFI cam ...Crane Roller Rockers ...good exhaust ...= ~ 500hp .....

The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) x Constant = Speed

Square Root of (500/ 4700 ) x 250 = 82 mph

Drop it in .. turn key ... go ..... 7000.00 delivered ....
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Old 04-18-2007 | 06:27 PM
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Last year I built a 383 that should put out 400Hp (no dyno #'s but a extremely similar build put out more with worse heads)

However, I have more $ into than a crate 502

Just like offthefront says.
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Old 04-18-2007 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by offthefront
My 502 MPI Mag ... 500 EFI cam ...Crane Roller Rockers ...good exhaust ...= ~ 500hp .....

The Square Root of (Total Shaft Horsepower / Weight ) x Constant = Speed

Square Root of (500/ 4700 ) x 250 = 82 mph

Drop it in .. turn key ... go ..... 7000.00 delivered ....
I'm not sure about your math. Square root of (500/4700)*250 = 5.16

Is there something missing in your formula?

EDIT: OK, square root of the function (500/4700). I guess that's why the parenthses! Duh!

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