choice of 2 cams
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engine is a 454 bored .030, forged pistons & crank, edelbrock performer 2.0 intake, holly 4bbl, hydraulic lifters, large oval port heads, cmi headers with wet tailpipes. I have 2 cams I can use. one is a crane, lift- 529 intake, 525 exhaust, duration- 278 intake, 290 exhaust. The other is an UltraDyne lift - 586 intake, 600 exhaust, duration- 276 intake, 284 exhaust. Which cam would be better. If I have to go to dry tailpipes that's not a problem.
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bet those duration #'s are "advertised" not @.050, therefore,
they are actually rather tame cams. I'd change the intake,
and run the Ultradyne! very agressive acceleration rates,
never ran an Ultradyne that didn't make me happy!
they are actually rather tame cams. I'd change the intake,
and run the Ultradyne! very agressive acceleration rates,
never ran an Ultradyne that didn't make me happy!
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What are you running for comp.? I used a very similar set up with a 454 std. bore and used the 502/465 hp cam and made 485 hp on the dyno. That was with the dart oval ports and 9.5 to 1 comp. As mentioned I would check with Bob. He will come up with a grind that fits all your specific components. What ever you do be sure and set up the rest of the valvetrain to match the cam of your choice.
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Harold Brookshire is the camshaft Wizard!
Not many know that old school Hp Harold Brookshire is the best in the world for a fast high performance cam UltraDyne now Bullet Racing Cams They still run all his grids and Tim Goolsby @ Bullet Racing Cams knows is cams too.
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Due diligence is in order here, prior to your final selection. A cursory examination of the data will provide you with real information to better assist you in choosing the camshaft that will provide the desired performance levels and behavior on the water, where it counts.
The most significant difference between the two camshafts is the follower. The Ultradyne F-9 intake/F-8 exhaust (since recycled by Lunati as the 402A3LUN) is a solid flat tappet. The Crane Powermax 133802 is a hydraulic flat tappet. The comparison between the two is skewed by the differences in the measurement of the lobes.
UD solid flat cam measures as follows:
Advertised Duration@ .020: 276Ί/284Ί
Duration @ .050 : .. 243Ί/251Ί
Gross Lift valve: ... 586/.600
Net lift after lash ..560/.570
LSA .110Ί
ICL ..104Ί
Crane Powermax Hyd_Flat tappet measures:
Advertised Duration@ .004: 278Ί/290Ί
Duration @ .050 : .. 222Ί/234Ί
Lobe Lift .. 3114/.3089
Lift Valve: . ..529/.525
LSA .114Ί
ICL ..109Ί
Looking at the data, it is apparent these are two very different camshafts. I would recommend you first define your performance goals and parameters, and then decide based upon the data what most closely coincides with those goals.
Bob
Due diligence is in order here, prior to your final selection. A cursory examination of the data will provide you with real information to better assist you in choosing the camshaft that will provide the desired performance levels and behavior on the water, where it counts.
The most significant difference between the two camshafts is the follower. The Ultradyne F-9 intake/F-8 exhaust (since recycled by Lunati as the 402A3LUN) is a solid flat tappet. The Crane Powermax 133802 is a hydraulic flat tappet. The comparison between the two is skewed by the differences in the measurement of the lobes.
UD solid flat cam measures as follows:
Advertised Duration@ .020: 276Ί/284Ί
Duration @ .050 : .. 243Ί/251Ί
Gross Lift valve: ... 586/.600
Net lift after lash ..560/.570
LSA .110Ί
ICL ..104Ί
Crane Powermax Hyd_Flat tappet measures:
Advertised Duration@ .004: 278Ί/290Ί
Duration @ .050 : .. 222Ί/234Ί
Lobe Lift .. 3114/.3089
Lift Valve: . ..529/.525
LSA .114Ί
ICL ..109Ί
Looking at the data, it is apparent these are two very different camshafts. I would recommend you first define your performance goals and parameters, and then decide based upon the data what most closely coincides with those goals.
Bob




