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Old 06-01-2011 | 09:15 PM
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So for the last couple weeks my friends dad that owns a roofing company has be arguing with me about what is legal to tow. His argument is that if his trucks are "plated" (I think he is referring the the license plate not the door plate) to tow a certain amount of weight, that it is legal even if it is over the amount of weight listed on the door plate. He has a bunch of 3500 GMCs they use to tow trailers full of shingles and other roofing supplies, but claims that if he got the proper plate for his Chevy Colorado that it would also be legal, and his insurance would cover it. I keep telling him no way no how it is not legal or safe and that a load that large would push his mini truck all over the road in the event of an emergency stop. For argument sake I asked him if he could tow a 40ft skater on tilt trailer with his Colorado and he said if it was plated correctly that he could. I told him he is out of his mind and that he is incorrect.

Sooooo, somebody tell me, am I right? I really think I am, and it would piss him off if a 23 year old was more knowledgeable then his 40 something year old self.
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Old 06-02-2011 | 06:09 AM
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He is a Roofer right ?
End of argument .
Your right the truck can only tow what it has been designed for . And what the truck is licenced for . And what the driver is licenced for .
My guess is most if not all his workers have a " G " licence .
That allows them to tow a trailer max of 4600 kg .
11,000kg total . I would bet some of those loaded trailers weigh more than that .
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Old 06-02-2011 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Perlmudder
So for the last couple weeks my friends dad that owns a roofing company has be arguing with me about what is legal to tow. His argument is that if his trucks are "plated" (I think he is referring the the license plate not the door plate) to tow a certain amount of weight, that it is legal even if it is over the amount of weight listed on the door plate. He has a bunch of 3500 GMCs they use to tow trailers full of shingles and other roofing supplies, but claims that if he got the proper plate for his Chevy Colorado that it would also be legal, and his insurance would cover it. I keep telling him no way no how it is not legal or safe and that a load that large would push his mini truck all over the road in the event of an emergency stop. For argument sake I asked him if he could tow a 40ft skater on tilt trailer with his Colorado and he said if it was plated correctly that he could. I told him he is out of his mind and that he is incorrect.

Sooooo, somebody tell me, am I right? I really think I am, and it would piss him off if a 23 year old was more knowledgeable then his 40 something year old self.
He is dead wrong! Nothing will ever override the limits set by the manufacturer's capacities listed on the doorjamb placard.
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Old 06-02-2011 | 06:47 AM
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Determining Registered Gross Weights for Trucks Towing Light Duty TrailersThe registered gross weight (RGW) determines the fee paid for truck licence plates. The truck's RGW is based on, and must be at least equal to the actual weight of the truck, or truck and trailer(s) and load(s). A trailer permit does not have a RGW. Generally the weight of a towed trailer(s) and its load are added to the RGW of the truck. Load includes the driver, passengers, fuel, equipment, tools, cargo, equipment, etc. carried in the truck and trailer.

The RGW is indicated on the right portion (plate portion) of a truck's ownership, to the right of "REG. GROSS WT" and is in kilograms (kg). One kilogram equals 2.204 pounds and one pound equals .4536 (kg).

"Truck" includes pickups and business type vans with truck licence plates. Farm plated trucks are subject to the same RGW rules.

The "Vehicle Permits Regulation", made under the Highway Traffic Act, provides an exemption for light trailers, specifically;

"where a trailer transmits to the highway a total weight of 2,800 kilograms (6,173 lb.) or less, that weight shall not be included in determining registered gross weight".
To determine how much an attached trailer transmits to the highway, and to determine how much a truck should be registered for:
Weigh the trailer only, with the trailer attached to the truck.

Illustration One - Weight A


Weigh the truck only, with the trailer attached.

Illustration Two - Weight B


If the trailer weighs more than 2,800 kg (6,171 lb.);

Register the truck for at least the combined weight of the truck and trailer, weights A and B.

If the trailer weighs 2,800 kg (6,171 lb.) or less;

Register the truck for at least the weight of the truck (weight B), which includes trailer tongue weight. Weight transmitted directly to the ground, by the trailer, is not included in the RGW.


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This is an unofficial version of Government of Ontario legal materials. For accurate reference refer to the official volumes. The Highway Traffic Act and Regulations made under the Act may be viewed on the internet at www.e-laws.gov.on.ca.


I was wondering what I could tow with my F150.
This is from the mto website. ... and G.M. will tell you what the truck can tow.
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