Ceramic vs. Steel Blower Bearings...30HP Increase??
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Has Anybody Swapped Out Their Steel Bearings For Ceramic On Their Superchargers And Idlers?? I've Heard Of 30 HP Increase On This... Ill Be Running Mine On The Dyno In The Next Few Weeks And Will Swap Them Out To See If This Is True Or Not... The Engines That Were Tested Were Roughly 1000hp....Is 30hp On A 1000hp Engine Really Going To Be Noticeable? Thats Like Throwing A Deck Chair Off The Titanic.. But Hey If You Can Get 30hp For 200 Bucks Id Be Game For That..
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I looked into getting them for my blower. W250 575SCi.
What I found was that semi-ceramic(balls ceramic, races steel) were rated for less load and RPM than good steel bearings, and the full ceramics were rated even less.
The original steel bearings I had were fine and rated for 11K RPM. The new steel ones I installed were rated for 17K RPM.
What I found was that semi-ceramic(balls ceramic, races steel) were rated for less load and RPM than good steel bearings, and the full ceramics were rated even less.
The original steel bearings I had were fine and rated for 11K RPM. The new steel ones I installed were rated for 17K RPM.
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From: Whitefish Chain - Crosslake, MN
ceramic bearings do not offer a significant decrease in the coefficient of friction in bearing applications. The use of ceramic in bearings is for the environment they would need to survive in. They are much better in distibuting and conducting heat (high speed applications), they also prevent electrical currents from passing through the rolling element in an electric motor / VFD (variable speed drive) application and causing fluting. If ceramic bearings could free up more power, they would almost be mandated in the effiency standards for elecric motors. And the fact that ceramic coated races and ceramic hybrid bearings run significantly higher in cost, would negate any benifits other than the applications that specifically "need" them.
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ceramic bearings do not offer a significant decrease in the coefficient of friction in bearing applications. The use of ceramic in bearings is for the environment they would need to survive in. They are much better in distibuting and conducting heat (high speed applications), they also prevent electrical currents from passing through the rolling element in an electric motor / VFD (variable speed drive) application and causing fluting. If ceramic bearings could free up more power, they would almost be mandated in the effiency standards for elecric motors. And the fact that ceramic coated races and ceramic hybrid bearings run significantly higher in cost, would negate any benifits other than the applications that specifically "need" them.
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ceramic bearings do not offer a significant decrease in the coefficient of friction in bearing applications. The use of ceramic in bearings is for the environment they would need to survive in. They are much better in distibuting and conducting heat (high speed applications), they also prevent electrical currents from passing through the rolling element in an electric motor / VFD (variable speed drive) application and causing fluting. If ceramic bearings could free up more power, they would almost be mandated in the effiency standards for elecric motors. And the fact that ceramic coated races and ceramic hybrid bearings run significantly higher in cost, would negate any benifits other than the applications that specifically "need" them.
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you are incorrect. ceramic bearings vs common steel bearing have roughly 30 % less friction for the same load in an apples to apples comparison. we used them in wheel bearing applications to reduce rolling drag and in every other aopplication we could until they outlawed them on a cost basis.
http://www.republicsales.com/product...all-roller.php
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I think based on current demand I could still sell that oceanfront Omaha property for less than the cost of the engine and blower equipped with these ceramic bearings after these bearing fail trying to supply that +30HP Bigfarmer is looking for !
Such a deal!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Such a deal!
Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Last edited by Raylar; 03-22-2012 at 09:27 PM.




