GM Techs need some help please
#1
My little economizer finally died so I have been driving my truck this week. 2000 GMC Sierra with a 5.3. I noticed yesterday that it didn't seem to have much power on the highway. The more throttle I gave it the less power it would have. This morning on the way to work it seemed fine. Had power on the highway at any throttle position.
On the way home it would run fine as long as I do not go over quarter throttle. If I went past 28% it would fall on its face. 50%-100% and it would barely chug almost not even run. If I bring the throttle back to 25% it runs great and I'm back to 70mph.
In the driveway in park I can rev it up to 5000rpm no problem, but if the throttle passes 28% it dies and barely pulls 2000rpm. I have no codes or faults stored in my ecu that I am able to read.
I am reading all the stats from my phone using my OBD2 dongle and an app. I can see what % my throttle is, my O2 voltage and my MAP reading. It usually it works pretty good but I think this might be over its head.
Thanks
On the way home it would run fine as long as I do not go over quarter throttle. If I went past 28% it would fall on its face. 50%-100% and it would barely chug almost not even run. If I bring the throttle back to 25% it runs great and I'm back to 70mph.
In the driveway in park I can rev it up to 5000rpm no problem, but if the throttle passes 28% it dies and barely pulls 2000rpm. I have no codes or faults stored in my ecu that I am able to read.
I am reading all the stats from my phone using my OBD2 dongle and an app. I can see what % my throttle is, my O2 voltage and my MAP reading. It usually it works pretty good but I think this might be over its head.
Thanks
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From: Between A Womans Leggs in IL
My little economizer finally died so I have been driving my truck this week. 2000 GMC Sierra with a 5.3. I noticed yesterday that it didn't seem to have much power on the highway. The more throttle I gave it the less power it would have. This morning on the way to work it seemed fine. Had power on the highway at any throttle position.
On the way home it would run fine as long as I do not go over quarter throttle. If I went past 28% it would fall on its face. 50%-100% and it would barely chug almost not even run. If I bring the throttle back to 25% it runs great and I'm back to 70mph.
In the driveway in park I can rev it up to 5000rpm no problem, but if the throttle passes 28% it dies and barely pulls 2000rpm. I have no codes or faults stored in my ecu that I am able to read.
I am reading all the stats from my phone using my OBD2 dongle and an app. I can see what % my throttle is, my O2 voltage and my MAP reading. It usually it works pretty good but I think this might be over its head.
Thanks
On the way home it would run fine as long as I do not go over quarter throttle. If I went past 28% it would fall on its face. 50%-100% and it would barely chug almost not even run. If I bring the throttle back to 25% it runs great and I'm back to 70mph.
In the driveway in park I can rev it up to 5000rpm no problem, but if the throttle passes 28% it dies and barely pulls 2000rpm. I have no codes or faults stored in my ecu that I am able to read.
I am reading all the stats from my phone using my OBD2 dongle and an app. I can see what % my throttle is, my O2 voltage and my MAP reading. It usually it works pretty good but I think this might be over its head.
Thanks
ONLY install a delfi unit,all others dont last,your local napa has the cheapest price....if you have over 70k then its time..
#3
+1 for the fuel pump, buy AC Delco or Delphi, most of the others are less than reliable (the AC and Delphi units aren't even that great, but better)
#5
throttle position sensor
Kinda same problem I ran into borrowing my sisters brand new '03 GMC at the time.
Was fine at city speeds, Get out on highway (above 40-50) and it slowed down the more gas I gave it.
Try this next time above 40 or so, wherever you notice it drops off... drive by your cruise control.
Set it, then hit your accel button and see if it does. I ended up driving all the way from IN to OK towing a trailer empty there, then back with my boat. Only way I made the trip was by driving with the CC anytime over 40 mph
She took it into dealer as soon as I returned and they determined the sensor/positioner??? at the gas pedal was defective. The CC test will tell all
Kinda same problem I ran into borrowing my sisters brand new '03 GMC at the time.
Was fine at city speeds, Get out on highway (above 40-50) and it slowed down the more gas I gave it.
Try this next time above 40 or so, wherever you notice it drops off... drive by your cruise control.
Set it, then hit your accel button and see if it does. I ended up driving all the way from IN to OK towing a trailer empty there, then back with my boat. Only way I made the trip was by driving with the CC anytime over 40 mph
She took it into dealer as soon as I returned and they determined the sensor/positioner??? at the gas pedal was defective. The CC test will tell all
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From: Between A Womans Leggs in IL

on anothe rnote if you did replace it check what mfr it was,,what was the fuel trim at?
clean the mas airflow sensor,a spec of dirt on it and it will act the same as a bad fuel pump..
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been a GM tech for 27 years and agree you will most likely need a fuel pump..early 2000-2003 tahoe suburbans also had issues with the fuel pressure regulator,,would not hurt to pull the vacoum hose and make sure its not leaking...
if you think its the mass sensor then just unplug it and drive it..it goes to a set value,,check engine light will come on but truck will drive ok if it a bad mass..
a dirty throttle body will not give you the issue you are having,,once you step on the gas pedal the throttle plate opens and you are getting all the air your engine needs..
I would not think its a Throttle position sensor either,,trans gets input from the TPS,if that was the problem you would also notice hard/firm trans shifts..
hard to diagnos over the internet with out a Tech2 and a fuel pressure gauge hooked up but it does sound like a fuel pump.
and like the others have said use a GM pump..
if you think its the mass sensor then just unplug it and drive it..it goes to a set value,,check engine light will come on but truck will drive ok if it a bad mass..
a dirty throttle body will not give you the issue you are having,,once you step on the gas pedal the throttle plate opens and you are getting all the air your engine needs..
I would not think its a Throttle position sensor either,,trans gets input from the TPS,if that was the problem you would also notice hard/firm trans shifts..
hard to diagnos over the internet with out a Tech2 and a fuel pressure gauge hooked up but it does sound like a fuel pump.
and like the others have said use a GM pump..
Last edited by boatnt; 03-22-2012 at 07:10 AM.




