Piston to valve clearance
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The best valve to piston clearance is enough to keep the two from hitting... 
If you're asking what the absolute minimum is, I usually go with .090" as a general rule of thumb, and have run them as close as .070"... but it certainly wasn't on a marine engine. Honestly, any camshaft profile that has any business being in a marine engine, combined with a flat top or inverted dome piston, shouldn't be anywhere even close to the danger zone as far as valve to piston clearance goes.
Do you have your cam specs? Particularly the timing events?

If you're asking what the absolute minimum is, I usually go with .090" as a general rule of thumb, and have run them as close as .070"... but it certainly wasn't on a marine engine. Honestly, any camshaft profile that has any business being in a marine engine, combined with a flat top or inverted dome piston, shouldn't be anywhere even close to the danger zone as far as valve to piston clearance goes.
Do you have your cam specs? Particularly the timing events?
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The best valve to piston clearance is enough to keep the two from hitting... 
If you're asking what the absolute minimum is, I usually go with .090" as a general rule of thumb, and have run them as close as .070"... but it certainly wasn't on a marine engine. Honestly, any camshaft profile that has any business being in a marine engine, combined with a flat top or inverted dome piston, shouldn't be anywhere even close to the danger zone as far as valve to piston clearance goes.
Do you have your cam specs? Particularly the timing events?

If you're asking what the absolute minimum is, I usually go with .090" as a general rule of thumb, and have run them as close as .070"... but it certainly wasn't on a marine engine. Honestly, any camshaft profile that has any business being in a marine engine, combined with a flat top or inverted dome piston, shouldn't be anywhere even close to the danger zone as far as valve to piston clearance goes.
Do you have your cam specs? Particularly the timing events?
cam spec:
Intake
valve open 4.7 btdc
center line 110.2 atdc
valve close 43.4 abdc
duration 228.1
lobe lift .365''
valve lift a 1.7 = .621''
Exhaust
valve open 56.1 bbdc
centerline 118.2 btdc
valve close -1.6 atdc
duration 234.4
lobe lift .365''
valve lift a 1.7 = .620''
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What lifter did you check it with....reason being you have to make sure the plunger isnt collapsing while you are checking it with the hyd roller lifter. .056 isnt enough, take your pistons to a reputable shop and get them cut. IMO if you are going to have to cut them i would atleast make sure you ended up with around .100 clearence. Make sure you recheck the piston to valve clearence after you get them back. It shouldnt cost you more than 80-100.00 per set
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I wouldn't like to see less than .090, I put a HUGE ultradyne cam in a sbc in the car for a buddy of mine once, we had cam clearence in th.055-.060 range, even though its NOT ideal we changed cam timing 2 degrees and clearence was over .090, there was no way the guy was going to pull his motor and tear it down/get pistons cut and he was set on running that cam. Get your pistons cut IF your clearence is really that tight BUT like mentioned, re-degree cam to be sure you have cam in right, I have ran cams with 250 duration and .650 valve lift on BBC's and had more clearence than you have, Smitty
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mx,
I am a chicken, I like to see .100 on both. I would like to make a couple of important points.
1. Make sure that you actually check the clearance with clay on the piston. A lot of times the valve relief in the piston is not big enough around to clear the intake valve and that is where it is actually hitting, especially with a 2.250 valve. You cannot tell that with just a dial indicator, you have to clay it so you can see where the valve is hitting.
2. Make absolutely certain that if you do make the relief larger or deeper, that you are not getting too close to the id of the top ring groove. That is one of the most common places for big block pistons to burn through when flycut.
3. Are you checking it with a head gasket ? I have to agree with the others that that is not all that big of a cam but I dont know how much of a valve relief the TRW pistons have either.
4. If you are going to get them cut, ask your machinis if he wants you to mark one of the pistons. I have an old valve stem that is ground to a point and I put it down through the valve guide and use it like a center punch to mark valve centerline on the top of the piston. On the intake valve you want to do this with the piston at about 10 degrees AFTER TDC. Makes it a lot easier to set up the cut.
Bill Koustenis
Advanced Automotive Machine
Waldorf Md
I am a chicken, I like to see .100 on both. I would like to make a couple of important points.
1. Make sure that you actually check the clearance with clay on the piston. A lot of times the valve relief in the piston is not big enough around to clear the intake valve and that is where it is actually hitting, especially with a 2.250 valve. You cannot tell that with just a dial indicator, you have to clay it so you can see where the valve is hitting.
2. Make absolutely certain that if you do make the relief larger or deeper, that you are not getting too close to the id of the top ring groove. That is one of the most common places for big block pistons to burn through when flycut.
3. Are you checking it with a head gasket ? I have to agree with the others that that is not all that big of a cam but I dont know how much of a valve relief the TRW pistons have either.
4. If you are going to get them cut, ask your machinis if he wants you to mark one of the pistons. I have an old valve stem that is ground to a point and I put it down through the valve guide and use it like a center punch to mark valve centerline on the top of the piston. On the intake valve you want to do this with the piston at about 10 degrees AFTER TDC. Makes it a lot easier to set up the cut.
Bill Koustenis
Advanced Automotive Machine
Waldorf Md


