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Made some wide open runs Saturday on my stock 1997 502 Mag MPI running 7 Lbs. boost pro charger. Brought motor back to idle and it sounded sick. Stalled and I restarted once. Then stalled again. I was in the middle of the shipping channel so I attempted to restart again and broke starter. I figured it blew the head gaskets and Hydro-locked.
Pulled her in the barn today and sure enough 3 cylinders were full of water and the spark plugs were wet on the other 5. Whats my diagnosis? full rebuild? Get lucky and replace head gaskets? I know there is a good chance I bent something in the motor.
Pulled her in the barn today and sure enough 3 cylinders were full of water and the spark plugs were wet on the other 5. Whats my diagnosis? full rebuild? Get lucky and replace head gaskets? I know there is a good chance I bent something in the motor.
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A slightly bent rod or hurt bearing. Any of that and your risking block problems. Even if everything else is good at least you know instead of being terrified every time you touch the throttle. Lol. Old saying better to be safe than sorry. Lol
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I think the smartest approach is to put plugs in and start her up. Look at pressure and listen for noises/missing. Also, do it with the belt off the charger so you can hear better.
You can run it for a minute/minute and a half without concern of lack of water.
If it sounds ok....then buy a top end gasket set with arp's and swap out the head gaskets. After resurfacing the heads, buying the gaskets, and installing the arp's......you'll be in under a grand and potentially back on the water next weekend.
If anything is amiss.....blow by, rattling, missing....knocking.....time for a rebuild. Either way, use studs on the heads.....
You can run it for a minute/minute and a half without concern of lack of water.
If it sounds ok....then buy a top end gasket set with arp's and swap out the head gaskets. After resurfacing the heads, buying the gaskets, and installing the arp's......you'll be in under a grand and potentially back on the water next weekend.
If anything is amiss.....blow by, rattling, missing....knocking.....time for a rebuild. Either way, use studs on the heads.....
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Made some wide open runs Saturday on my stock 1997 502 Mag MPI running 7 Lbs. boost pro charger. Brought motor back to idle and it sounded sick. Stalled and I restarted once. Then stalled again. I was in the middle of the shipping channel so I attempted to restart again and broke starter. I figured it blew the head gaskets and Hydro-locked.
Pulled her in the barn today and sure enough 3 cylinders were full of water and the spark plugs were wet on the other 5. Whats my diagnosis? full rebuild? Get lucky and replace head gaskets? I know there is a good chance I bent something in the motor.
Pulled her in the barn today and sure enough 3 cylinders were full of water and the spark plugs were wet on the other 5. Whats my diagnosis? full rebuild? Get lucky and replace head gaskets? I know there is a good chance I bent something in the motor.
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Yes it is the one with the Holley. I was doing some wide open runs to make sure the computer would learn the upper rpm ranges before I pulled my O2 sensor to run open loop. I haven't checked the data logs yet but believe this problem was caused by running 7 psi on stock motor. Water has been in cylinders for about 24 hours now. Starter is broken right now. I am purchasing a new starter tomorrow so I can turn the motor over and blow the water out of the cylinders.
Checked the intercooler and it was dry. I am surprised I have water in every cylinder. Boat does have flappers and the exhaust exits well above water line so I am sure it didn't come thru the tips.
Was running 86 mph trimmed out nicely before this happened. Didn't notice a problem till I slowly brought the motor down to idle after the run.
Judging by the dipstick there is no water in the pan.
Still debating my next move !
Checked the intercooler and it was dry. I am surprised I have water in every cylinder. Boat does have flappers and the exhaust exits well above water line so I am sure it didn't come thru the tips.
Was running 86 mph trimmed out nicely before this happened. Didn't notice a problem till I slowly brought the motor down to idle after the run.
Judging by the dipstick there is no water in the pan.
Still debating my next move !
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Headgasket blew (or cyl head lifted) and water went in those cylinders. It's a common plenum intake, therefore other good cylinders (if there are some) pulled water from there.
Same deal when a motor breaks a valve. Sometimes the valve head ends up in another cylinder in the other bank.
Same deal when a motor breaks a valve. Sometimes the valve head ends up in another cylinder in the other bank.


