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Old 03-31-2015 | 08:33 PM
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Why did nobody ever make straight cut TRS gears, can it really be that hard?
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Old 03-31-2015 | 10:54 PM
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Apparently it is that hard....just look at the track record of XR gearsets
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Old 04-01-2015 | 04:39 AM
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Yaaaaa hhaha I am just curious why nobody tried to make them to get some more power to them..I just got a set of brand new lower gears, let's see how long they last...
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Old 04-01-2015 | 05:16 AM
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gears usually isn't the problem,,its the lowers vertical shaft that snaps off.
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Old 04-01-2015 | 06:27 AM
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Probably wouldnt be worth it. If the gears were stronger, the next weak link would be vertical shaft, twisting prop shaft, etc. The entire drive, is really not designed for high power.

My personal experiance with TRS boats, is they work great if not overpowered. I never had a lick of trouble with them behind 454/420's. As far as putting some power thru them, I twisted the splines on one, broke a couple sets of lower gears, and one upper gear set, in a couple seasons. My buddy two summers ago, broke a lower gear set running hard. When the gear set blew, the drive locked up, and shattered his damper plate so bad, that it shot out a spring, and blew a hole in his engine to trans bellhousing. He didnt enjoy that. Not only a blown drive, but the motor had to come out as well.

I don't know how these guys on facebook claim they are running 750hp thru them successfully. The old SSM 3, 4, 5, 6 drive, used twin downshafts, to turn two sets of gears in the lower. Physically, the lower gears can only be so large, without having a riduculously large lower case, that would hurt speed. By having two downshafts, the load on the lower gears can be split 50/50. So, if you have 750HP, each lower gear would see 375hp if setup right. And those were straight cut gears. It was a great design imo.

When you look at a bravo or trs, they simply have one shaft, one set of lower gears to handle the torq. The gears are small, and can only handle so much. When you start getting into big power, its no surprise they fail.
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
gears usually isn't the problem,,its the lowers vertical shaft that snaps off.
I never seen that yet but insure see tons of pinion gear failure...
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Probably wouldnt be worth it. If the gears were stronger, the next weak link would be vertical shaft, twisting prop shaft, etc. The entire drive, is really not designed for high power.

My personal experiance with TRS boats, is they work great if not overpowered. I never had a lick of trouble with them behind 454/420's. As far as putting some power thru them, I twisted the splines on one, broke a couple sets of lower gears, and one upper gear set, in a couple seasons. My buddy two summers ago, broke a lower gear set running hard. When the gear set blew, the drive locked up, and shattered his damper plate so bad, that it shot out a spring, and blew a hole in his engine to trans bellhousing. He didnt enjoy that. Not only a blown drive, but the motor had to come out as well.

I don't know how these guys on facebook claim they are running 750hp thru them successfully. The old SSM 3, 4, 5, 6 drive, used twin downshafts, to turn two sets of gears in the lower. Physically, the lower gears can only be so large, without having a riduculously large lower case, that would hurt speed. By having two downshafts, the load on the lower gears can be split 50/50. So, if you have 750HP, each lower gear would see 375hp if setup right. And those were straight cut gears. It was a great design imo.

When you look at a bravo or trs, they simply have one shaft, one set of lower gears to handle the torq. The gears are small, and can only handle so much. When you start getting into big power, its no surprise they fail.
Yes we have talked about this a lot haha, I will be putting mine to limits for a while then the 3 or bigger swap in a couple years... It's a matter of luck I guess my buddy put 830 hp to TRS in a ScarabIII back in the day... Never hurt one!!! How that happen??
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I have zero clue how that happen . he must have a horseshoe up his azz lol.

Twin 830s in a scarab 3? How that thing run ?
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What about the Konrad's............. single or twin vertical shafts
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Old 04-01-2015 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
I have zero clue how that happen . he must have a horseshoe up his azz lol.

Twin 830s in a scarab 3? How that thing run ?
Lol went 84-85 was a sweet boat !! Now has 43 Nortech with 1600's Gellner dynoed at 1597 hp sweet ride
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