America, the land of the free (for some)
04-01-2015 | 12:40 PM
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America, the land of the free (for some)
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...hN43?ocid=iehp
I have no idea what Ben Kramers record in prison is, but here are 22 "large sale" COCAINE dealers all getting sprung because of outdated sentences, yet Ben, who has been sitting for a very long time on a major POT offense still sits. If cocaine sentences are outdated, some of the pot guidelines must be ancient. Has he been acting up in jail or does the Aronow no contest plea effect his eligibility?
I have no idea what Ben Kramers record in prison is, but here are 22 "large sale" COCAINE dealers all getting sprung because of outdated sentences, yet Ben, who has been sitting for a very long time on a major POT offense still sits. If cocaine sentences are outdated, some of the pot guidelines must be ancient. Has he been acting up in jail or does the Aronow no contest plea effect his eligibility?
04-01-2015 | 03:35 PM
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Kramer conspired to murder Don Aronow. Rot in hell the POS. Read the book Speed Kills.
Kramer's Conviction Upheld in Aronow Murder - 12/15/2010
Last week a Miami-Dade judge declined to throw out the conviction of Benjamin Kramer in the 1987 assassination of power boat mogul Don Aronow. Aronow had been one of the pioneers in offshore racing, winning both the world and U.S. championships several times. Perhaps he is remembered most for the boat companies he started to build offshore racing boats, including Formula, Magnum, Donzi and Cigarette. Ben Kramer is a convicted drug smuggler who was made famous by his attempt to escape from prison by helicopter.
Aronow/Kramer Aronow/Kramer
Ben Kramer, in handcuffs, the owner of Apache Powerboats, was convicted in the early 1990s of having Cigarette builder Don Aronow murdered.
By David Ovalle, Miami Herald, Dec. 8, 2010--
Benjamin Kramer, the flashy South Florida powerboat racer imprisoned for ordering the 1987 assassination of rival Don Aronow, remains a convicted killer Tuesday after a Miami-Dade judge refused to toss out his conviction. Kramer pleaded no contest to manslaughter in 1996 and agreed to a 19-year sentence to run concurrent to a life federal prison term for marijuana smuggling.
In March, Kramer claimed prosecutors sent him to prison without ever telling his defense lawyers that the admitted triggerman had confessed that Colombians -- not Kramer -- had hired him to kill Aronow. A millionaire powerboat builder, Aronow was gunned down in February 1987 outside his USA Racing office in the 3000 block of Northeast 188th Street.
Aronow/Kramer
Former race boat driver Benjamin Barry Kramer arrives in April, 1990, for sentencing at federal court in downtown Miami for his attempted breakout of prison.
Prosecutors asserted that Kramer ordered Aronow's assassination in a business dispute. Bobby Young, a convicted killer, kidnapper and cocaine trafficker, admitted to authorities that he gunned down Aronow. He pleaded no contest to second-degree murder in 1995 and was sentenced to 19 years, but his plea deal did not require him to identify who had hired him for the hit.
Kramer's lawyers claimed that Young confessed in February 2009 -- shortly before he passed away in prison -- and told police and prosecutors about the so-called Colombian connection and that they kept the information from his defense team. But Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dava Tunis, after reviewing documents in the court file, agreed Tuesday that Kramer's previous defense attorneys had known that Young once claimed Colombians hired him. "This is not newly discovered evidence,'' Tunis said.
Aronow/Kramer
Don Aronow and Carl Kiekhaefer, founder of Mercury Marine. Aronow used the racing engines that Kiekhaefer built -- sometime personally.
Kramer claims he only took the manslaughter plea to get out of squalid conditions at Dade County Jail. The state's original case against Kramer relied on testimony of two jailhouse informants and a disgraced lawyer who had learned of Kramer's involvement, as well as incriminating phone calls from Kramer recorded in federal prison.
Young was not listed as a state witness, and one of the lead Miami-Dade police detectives told The Miami Herald that the gunman never confessed to who hired him during debriefings.
Aronow/Kramer
Apache Powerboats were some of the largest and most powerful offshore boats of their era.
Kramer is also notorious for his attempt to escape prison. In 1990, he tried fleeing the Federal Correctional Institution in South Miami-Dade in a helicopter, but failed when the chopper crashed.
Defense lawyers Kenneth Kukec and Benson Weintraub say that Kramer just wants to clear his name, and plans to appeal.
"This case continues to be a mystery,'' Kukec said after the hearing.
Kramer's Conviction Upheld in Aronow Murder - 12/15/2010
Last week a Miami-Dade judge declined to throw out the conviction of Benjamin Kramer in the 1987 assassination of power boat mogul Don Aronow. Aronow had been one of the pioneers in offshore racing, winning both the world and U.S. championships several times. Perhaps he is remembered most for the boat companies he started to build offshore racing boats, including Formula, Magnum, Donzi and Cigarette. Ben Kramer is a convicted drug smuggler who was made famous by his attempt to escape from prison by helicopter.
Aronow/Kramer Aronow/Kramer
Ben Kramer, in handcuffs, the owner of Apache Powerboats, was convicted in the early 1990s of having Cigarette builder Don Aronow murdered.
By David Ovalle, Miami Herald, Dec. 8, 2010--
Benjamin Kramer, the flashy South Florida powerboat racer imprisoned for ordering the 1987 assassination of rival Don Aronow, remains a convicted killer Tuesday after a Miami-Dade judge refused to toss out his conviction. Kramer pleaded no contest to manslaughter in 1996 and agreed to a 19-year sentence to run concurrent to a life federal prison term for marijuana smuggling.
In March, Kramer claimed prosecutors sent him to prison without ever telling his defense lawyers that the admitted triggerman had confessed that Colombians -- not Kramer -- had hired him to kill Aronow. A millionaire powerboat builder, Aronow was gunned down in February 1987 outside his USA Racing office in the 3000 block of Northeast 188th Street.
Aronow/Kramer
Former race boat driver Benjamin Barry Kramer arrives in April, 1990, for sentencing at federal court in downtown Miami for his attempted breakout of prison.
Prosecutors asserted that Kramer ordered Aronow's assassination in a business dispute. Bobby Young, a convicted killer, kidnapper and cocaine trafficker, admitted to authorities that he gunned down Aronow. He pleaded no contest to second-degree murder in 1995 and was sentenced to 19 years, but his plea deal did not require him to identify who had hired him for the hit.
Kramer's lawyers claimed that Young confessed in February 2009 -- shortly before he passed away in prison -- and told police and prosecutors about the so-called Colombian connection and that they kept the information from his defense team. But Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dava Tunis, after reviewing documents in the court file, agreed Tuesday that Kramer's previous defense attorneys had known that Young once claimed Colombians hired him. "This is not newly discovered evidence,'' Tunis said.
Aronow/Kramer
Don Aronow and Carl Kiekhaefer, founder of Mercury Marine. Aronow used the racing engines that Kiekhaefer built -- sometime personally.
Kramer claims he only took the manslaughter plea to get out of squalid conditions at Dade County Jail. The state's original case against Kramer relied on testimony of two jailhouse informants and a disgraced lawyer who had learned of Kramer's involvement, as well as incriminating phone calls from Kramer recorded in federal prison.
Young was not listed as a state witness, and one of the lead Miami-Dade police detectives told The Miami Herald that the gunman never confessed to who hired him during debriefings.
Aronow/Kramer
Apache Powerboats were some of the largest and most powerful offshore boats of their era.
Kramer is also notorious for his attempt to escape prison. In 1990, he tried fleeing the Federal Correctional Institution in South Miami-Dade in a helicopter, but failed when the chopper crashed.
Defense lawyers Kenneth Kukec and Benson Weintraub say that Kramer just wants to clear his name, and plans to appeal.
"This case continues to be a mystery,'' Kukec said after the hearing.
04-01-2015 | 04:55 PM
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uhmm . . . . its not that Ben should get out . . . . . its that all those should remain in jail . . . . lol
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04-01-2015 | 08:04 PM
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From the article:
To be considered for commutation, prisoners could pose no threat to public safety, have a clean prison record and have been sentenced under outdated laws, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston said.
Attempted escapes via helicopter are apparently frowned upon by the the Bureau of Prisons.
To be considered for commutation, prisoners could pose no threat to public safety, have a clean prison record and have been sentenced under outdated laws, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston said.
Attempted escapes via helicopter are apparently frowned upon by the the Bureau of Prisons.
04-01-2015 | 08:25 PM
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From the article:
To be considered for commutation, prisoners could pose no threat to public safety, have a clean prison record and have been sentenced under outdated laws, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston said.
Attempted escapes via helicopter are apparently frowned upon by the the Bureau of Prisons.
To be considered for commutation, prisoners could pose no threat to public safety, have a clean prison record and have been sentenced under outdated laws, White House Counsel Neil Eggleston said.
Attempted escapes via helicopter are apparently frowned upon by the the Bureau of Prisons.
04-01-2015 | 08:31 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...hN43?ocid=iehp
I have no idea what Ben Kramers record in prison is, but here are 22 "large sale" COCAINE dealers all getting sprung because of outdated sentences, yet Ben, who has been sitting for a very long time on a major POT offense still sits. If cocaine sentences are outdated, some of the pot guidelines must be ancient. Has he been acting up in jail or does the Aronow no contest plea effect his eligibility?
I have no idea what Ben Kramers record in prison is, but here are 22 "large sale" COCAINE dealers all getting sprung because of outdated sentences, yet Ben, who has been sitting for a very long time on a major POT offense still sits. If cocaine sentences are outdated, some of the pot guidelines must be ancient. Has he been acting up in jail or does the Aronow no contest plea effect his eligibility?
2. He took whatever deal and sentence that was handed down ...
3. Just because Obama pardoned 22 people, that does not mean sh*t for the 99.99% of the other convicted offenders. Headline news not reality for other inmantes.
