The rumors are true....
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Ive read about this guy all over the place.. Banned a million times on here.. etc, etc, etc... Now I know why..
Makes an offer and then looks for anyway out. Here is one of the pictures from my ad, what kind of EFI does this look like to you?
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Facebook Messenger Conversation as Follows:
Jim David Darr: Tom, did you buy 46 freedom
Tom Borisch: Are you interested in the engines, trans, and headers?
Jim David Darr: What trannys were in it
Tom Borisch: Jim's 2 speeds.
Jim David Darr: I don't need headers. I would pay 40k for motors and trannys
Tom Borisch: 45?
Jim David Darr: Can't go 45. 40 is my offer
Tom Borisch: That will help me cover shipping. I'll have them delivered in an enclosed trailer. I can do 40k, but you need to arrange shipping. We can crate them.
Jim David Darr: Let me see what shipping is and talk to my rigger to see if I need headers and tail pipes. Text u back
Tom Borisch: Shipping will be about 800 for both skids.
Jim David Darr: Your in Michigan correct?
Tom Borisch: Actually, I can send them in an enclosed anyway. I have a guy going that way next week. I'll cover that.
Jim David Darr: I just need to see if my headers will fit those engines.
Tom Borisch: K. They are tall decks with 18degree big chief heads
Jim David Darr: Great boat. What power you putting in it
Tom Borisch: I have a set of psi sterlings that need a home.
Jim David Darr: That will push that 46. You don't have any boats for sale do you
Tom Borisch: No, When will you know if you want these for sure?
Jim David Darr: I just left him message. I'll know tonight
Tom Borisch: Sounds good, I will start crating em tomorrow if you pull the trigger, I know Jim loved these engines. But sterling is right here in Michigan, and I know Mike really well.
Tom Borisch: There is a line forming behind you for the engine and trans combo... Lol
Jim David Darr: Buddy. If you have cash buyer right this second sell them. I will get with you as soon as I hear from Tony. If their still there we will talk and I'll wire money. Thanks
Tom Borisch: No, don't have any real offers.. That was the LOL part of the message.. People like to ask questions. Very few have the cash. It's all good.
I'm sure you have dealt with the same thing before.
Jim David Darr: Yep I have.
Tom Borisch: Still have a deal?
Jim David Darr: Don't know yet he didn't get back to me. I'll call u second he calls
Tom Borisch: Ok
Jim David Darr: Tom. What kind of efi system is on the engines
Tom Borisch: The carbureted kind.
Tom Borisch: These engines run better than any EFI setup around. Jim had this thing on the water more than any other boat, and maintained it with an open check book.
Jim David Darr: I want efi. I'm checking on price to do top ends and make them efi. I've had alot of carb motors. They are great until u get around docks and in and out of gear and they don't have knock detonation sensors and retard on them. I'll get back to you. How much are the trannys alone?. Thanks
Tom Borisch: Let me know
Tom Borisch: What's the word? You have a strange way of doing business. Making firm offers and then trying to figure out if your actually interested.
Jim David Darr: What? I'm interested. I thought they were efi. What I was told.
Tom Borisch: By who?
Jim David Darr: Guys at loto
Tom Borisch: They have always Ben carb motors. Oh well. Let me know
Jim David Darr: Efi will cost me 8k a motor and 10k for freshening 1 motor
Tom Borisch: Ok
Jim David Darr: Are you at your bottom dollar on motors and trannys?
Tom Borisch: Yes
Jim David Darr: Ok
Tom Borisch: Your not interested?
Jim David Darr: Interested in trannys. But I want efi engines. Too much to convert these motors. I truly thought they were efi
Tom Borisch: How much for trans?
Jim David Darr: How much do you want
Tom Borisch: Jim sells the for 12,500 a piece, Make me an offer for both.
Jim David Darr: Too much for me.
Tom Borisch: That's not what I'm asking, I'm thinking 10k
Jim David Darr: Too much for me. I wouldn't give more than 5k.
Tom Borisch: No
Jim David Darr: Sorry you said make offer. I would send you cashiers check for 6k . Final offer
Tom Borisch: No
Makes an offer and then looks for anyway out. Here is one of the pictures from my ad, what kind of EFI does this look like to you?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]555238[/ATTACH]
Facebook Messenger Conversation as Follows:
Jim David Darr: Tom, did you buy 46 freedom
Tom Borisch: Are you interested in the engines, trans, and headers?
Jim David Darr: What trannys were in it
Tom Borisch: Jim's 2 speeds.
Jim David Darr: I don't need headers. I would pay 40k for motors and trannys
Tom Borisch: 45?
Jim David Darr: Can't go 45. 40 is my offer
Tom Borisch: That will help me cover shipping. I'll have them delivered in an enclosed trailer. I can do 40k, but you need to arrange shipping. We can crate them.
Jim David Darr: Let me see what shipping is and talk to my rigger to see if I need headers and tail pipes. Text u back
Tom Borisch: Shipping will be about 800 for both skids.
Jim David Darr: Your in Michigan correct?
Tom Borisch: Actually, I can send them in an enclosed anyway. I have a guy going that way next week. I'll cover that.
Jim David Darr: I just need to see if my headers will fit those engines.
Tom Borisch: K. They are tall decks with 18degree big chief heads
Jim David Darr: Great boat. What power you putting in it
Tom Borisch: I have a set of psi sterlings that need a home.
Jim David Darr: That will push that 46. You don't have any boats for sale do you
Tom Borisch: No, When will you know if you want these for sure?
Jim David Darr: I just left him message. I'll know tonight
Tom Borisch: Sounds good, I will start crating em tomorrow if you pull the trigger, I know Jim loved these engines. But sterling is right here in Michigan, and I know Mike really well.
Tom Borisch: There is a line forming behind you for the engine and trans combo... Lol
Jim David Darr: Buddy. If you have cash buyer right this second sell them. I will get with you as soon as I hear from Tony. If their still there we will talk and I'll wire money. Thanks
Tom Borisch: No, don't have any real offers.. That was the LOL part of the message.. People like to ask questions. Very few have the cash. It's all good.
I'm sure you have dealt with the same thing before.
Jim David Darr: Yep I have.
Tom Borisch: Still have a deal?
Jim David Darr: Don't know yet he didn't get back to me. I'll call u second he calls
Tom Borisch: Ok
Jim David Darr: Tom. What kind of efi system is on the engines
Tom Borisch: The carbureted kind.
Tom Borisch: These engines run better than any EFI setup around. Jim had this thing on the water more than any other boat, and maintained it with an open check book.
Jim David Darr: I want efi. I'm checking on price to do top ends and make them efi. I've had alot of carb motors. They are great until u get around docks and in and out of gear and they don't have knock detonation sensors and retard on them. I'll get back to you. How much are the trannys alone?. Thanks
Tom Borisch: Let me know
Tom Borisch: What's the word? You have a strange way of doing business. Making firm offers and then trying to figure out if your actually interested.
Jim David Darr: What? I'm interested. I thought they were efi. What I was told.
Tom Borisch: By who?
Jim David Darr: Guys at loto
Tom Borisch: They have always Ben carb motors. Oh well. Let me know
Jim David Darr: Efi will cost me 8k a motor and 10k for freshening 1 motor
Tom Borisch: Ok
Jim David Darr: Are you at your bottom dollar on motors and trannys?
Tom Borisch: Yes
Jim David Darr: Ok
Tom Borisch: Your not interested?
Jim David Darr: Interested in trannys. But I want efi engines. Too much to convert these motors. I truly thought they were efi
Tom Borisch: How much for trans?
Jim David Darr: How much do you want
Tom Borisch: Jim sells the for 12,500 a piece, Make me an offer for both.
Jim David Darr: Too much for me.
Tom Borisch: That's not what I'm asking, I'm thinking 10k
Jim David Darr: Too much for me. I wouldn't give more than 5k.
Tom Borisch: No
Jim David Darr: Sorry you said make offer. I would send you cashiers check for 6k . Final offer
Tom Borisch: No
Last edited by Tborisch; 05-12-2016 at 08:56 AM.
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From: Naperville, IL
Why do people do this ****? What kind of person gets off on tire kicking and wasting people's valuable time? You're either a buy or you're not a buyer, I understand shopping around and being cautious but don't be throwing out offers if you are not ready to do the transaction. This guy must be bored, somebody needs to introduce this guy to a titty bar or high-end escorts and let him know there are much better ways to waste his time.
You should have screwed with him a bit more and agreed to the $5k for the transmissions to see what kind of excuses he would come up with to back out even at that price.
You should have screwed with him a bit more and agreed to the $5k for the transmissions to see what kind of excuses he would come up with to back out even at that price.
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From: Toledo Oh
Did you get his phone number? you can have all kinds of fun with that... such as placing a cheap hooker ad on craigslist with his number, beyond good deal car sale ads with his number etc.... with a few key strokes you can have his phone ringing indefinitly...




