Anyone run a 3 circuit Dominator on a BBC with a little 177 or 174 blower?
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Hi,
Found what appears to be a good deal on a 3 circuit 1150 Dominator, for my set up but I'm not sure if going the 3 circuit route is right for me. List number 9377, so its an older 3 circuit, with no PVs.
My boat is an 89 baja force 235 that runs in the mid 60's at about 4700 rpm with a 24p bravo1 prop at about 6500 ft elevation on Lake Abiquiu in New Mexico
Motor is 8:1 compression 454 with a B&M 174 running 7.5 lbs boost at WOT
Cam specs are,
238 int./248 exh. @ 50
540/540 lift.
114 LSA
Current carb is an 850 boost referenced vacuum secondary with 3.5 PVs. Reason I feel it's far too small is that I ended up having to increase jets from 78 primary/82 secondary all the way up to 97 primary/98 secondary before I got rid of the lean condition at WOT.
Anyhow, I know merc ran a 2 circuit 1050 with 6.5 PVs and some pretty fat jets on the 525SC and it seems to me that I should maybe just copy them....At this point, I've been going back and forth with this guy on the carb and I'm in uncharted territory with the whole 3 circuit no PV thing but I hate to turn down a good deal....
Any advice towards 3 circuit carbs on top of small blowers??
Thanks,
Travis
Found what appears to be a good deal on a 3 circuit 1150 Dominator, for my set up but I'm not sure if going the 3 circuit route is right for me. List number 9377, so its an older 3 circuit, with no PVs.
My boat is an 89 baja force 235 that runs in the mid 60's at about 4700 rpm with a 24p bravo1 prop at about 6500 ft elevation on Lake Abiquiu in New Mexico
Motor is 8:1 compression 454 with a B&M 174 running 7.5 lbs boost at WOT
Cam specs are,
238 int./248 exh. @ 50
540/540 lift.
114 LSA
Current carb is an 850 boost referenced vacuum secondary with 3.5 PVs. Reason I feel it's far too small is that I ended up having to increase jets from 78 primary/82 secondary all the way up to 97 primary/98 secondary before I got rid of the lean condition at WOT.
Anyhow, I know merc ran a 2 circuit 1050 with 6.5 PVs and some pretty fat jets on the 525SC and it seems to me that I should maybe just copy them....At this point, I've been going back and forth with this guy on the carb and I'm in uncharted territory with the whole 3 circuit no PV thing but I hate to turn down a good deal....
Any advice towards 3 circuit carbs on top of small blowers??
Thanks,
Travis
Last edited by 89Force235; 12-31-2016 at 11:19 AM.
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IMO, an 1150 is way too big. Even the 1050 on the 525SC was on the large side.
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Mike I hear what your saying however I bought a set of pro systems 950 carbs that were built and spec'd for 177 engines. It kinda through me off a bit but I even talked with Patric before purchasing them and his comments were they were perfect for the 177 builds but a little on the small side for my use but would work.
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mercury marine would have used a smaller cheaper carb but they spent the extra money for a reason.on engines like the sc525 fuel distribution is not real good but the dominator 1050 helped.the sc525 came with 7.5-1 compression ratio and a whimpy hyd flat tappet cam,without boost it would not get out of it,s own way.the small 177 blower would not move enough air with a 4150 carb,it made less than 500 hp so the dominator was the answer.
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Pro systems built me two 1150 dom carbs last year. 3 circuit. He had the intermediate circuit very soft. Power valves were the high flow style (I had a ton of PVCR). Clean idle, clean cruise (around 13.5), just a hint of fattening up when the PV's opened. Otherwise they were perfect. I monitored via O2's...I quizzed him on the 2 vs 3 circuit debate in marine. He laughed and responded that it's 2016. Old days are well past us... FWIW they can and do work. [ATTACH=CONFIG]563200[/ATTACH]
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Thanks, I've seen this response a fair amount regarding 3 circuit carbs and it seems to make sense to me from what I understand about how the intermediate circuit works.



