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Old 01-12-2017 | 07:30 AM
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Trying to figure out if a Tankless water heater will supply enough hot/warm water for a short shower?
What units are being used for this?
Don't have space for a tank unit.
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Old 01-12-2017 | 11:55 AM
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We have an entire house operating a Bosch tank-less unit -- YOU CAN'T RUN OUT OF HOT WATER!!! Now this is a gas unit and I have no experience with electric systems but I'm sure they have been offered in other "RV" applications and I personally wouldn't think twice about getting one. The issue that you may experience is within your boat are you running a water softner - if not there is a potential for the heat exchange system to get mineral deposits and clog.

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Old 01-12-2017 | 08:34 PM
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With the on demand water heaters it is all about temperature rise. They will only raise X amount of gallons per minute X amount of degrees.
Up here in MI people that bought on demand water heaters when we have very cold winter temps have a surprise when they can't get a hot shower.
When you have city water the water lines are buried 6 or more feet down and can freeze if it is cold enough long enough. The on demand water heaters can't heat this very cold water up enough to have a decent hot shower.
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Old 01-12-2017 | 10:10 PM
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We have an electric one on a boat, It works OK..... you have to adjust the flow rate according to the temperature of the incoming water and it requires a dedicated 30A breaker and line.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 12:31 AM
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Used one on a catamaran sailboat I rented for a few weeks.

It was propane. Absolute endless hot water as long as you had plenty of propane.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 04:55 AM
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I have a Rinnai tankless propane water heater in northern New York. I have Endless Hot Water
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Old 01-13-2017 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
With the on demand water heaters it is all about temperature rise. They will only raise X amount of gallons per minute X amount of degrees.
Up here in MI people that bought on demand water heaters when we have very cold winter temps have a surprise when they can't get a hot shower.
When you have city water the water lines are buried 6 or more feet down and can freeze if it is cold enough long enough. The on demand water heaters can't heat this very cold water up enough to have a decent hot shower.
You're right about temperature rise- A Rinai R75 can churn 7.5gpm of water at a 35* rise. The more rise required, the lower the gpm. So 87* water at 7.5gpm, or 115* water at about 4gpm. Assuming the groundwater temperature is 52*.

But regarding the underground water lines freezing, it was explained to me by a physics teacher long ago; the temperature of a well digger's arse near the surface is close to whatever the ambient temperature is, and the temperature of a well digger's arse at 6ft below the surface will be around 42-50*, and almost always above freezing. Yes, occasionally underground lines freeze and burst, but there's a reason you can get well water in the winter, a reason for the frost line, and a reason geothermal pumps work- geothermal heat. So even at 33*, a decent sized unit will churn it out at 105-110* and 3gpm. Below that, nobody gets a shower- not you, or the neighbors, because the pipes would be frozen.
https://www.libertywholesalesupply.c...ai_flow_chart/
Power outages....The power outage situation can be handled by a backup that sparks the pilot, so as long as you have fuel you have hot water. In the old days that 40 gallons of hot water in a tank meant you could shower before the power company got to work. With electric that's a moot point.

We have a Rinai in our house, never had a cold shower. Flushing the heat exchanger with a bucket, pump, and vinegar is a routine maintenance requirement. I would never recommend tankless to a man with a wife and daughters; your bathroom will be a sauna and you'll never be able to drop a deuce.

A friend had a couple 110v tankless units in his cottage when he first bought it. The sink was always good pressure and temp, but the shower didn't work as well. He switched to a whole house propane unit, they regularly have a half dozen people showering on weekends and no one gets a cold shower. Just prepare to have a bath fan the size of helicopter to get rid of all the moisture.

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Old 01-13-2017 | 07:04 AM
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Western NY, on city supplied water, my gas tankless works fine. Been using tankless for at least 20 years.

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Old 01-13-2017 | 07:15 AM
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The only way to really solve this is two boats, one with a tank, one tankless. Put good looking women in each, and record the results for scientific purposes. Feel free to post the video footage. Purely for science and advancement, of course.
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Old 01-13-2017 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by class6
I have a Rinnai tankless propane water heater in northern New York. I have Endless Hot Water
propane tanks? not really tankless then
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