Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Needing more total timing 1997 Mecruiser 5.7 >

Needing more total timing 1997 Mecruiser 5.7

Notices

Needing more total timing 1997 Mecruiser 5.7

Thread Tools
 
Old 03-08-2017 | 05:26 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Default Needing more total timing 1997 Mecruiser 5.7

1997 Mercruiser 5.7 Alpha, was a 2bbl, non vortec heads. Standard ignition system. The new engine has Vortec heads, Howards Cams Roller cam, Edelbrock RPM Air Gap intake. Standard exhaust manifolds. The cam manufacturer said I want between 32-34 degrees of timing at 2500rpm. Going by the book, and the cover on my engine, it looks like base timing is 8 degrees btdc, and 22 degrees module advance, for a total of 30 degrees. Can I swap modules from a different engine to get to the 32-34 degree range? Anyone know of a particular engine that has that? Thank you in advance.
rsvert89 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 05:30 PM
  #2  
SB
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 3,668
From: On A Dirt Floor
Default

If you have Tbolt IV ignition, just set total degrees where you want it...and let base fall where it falls.

Do you have Tbolt IV or V ? What module # do you have ?
SB is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 05:43 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Default

I am not sure of my part number. Looks like I have Thunderbolt V, and I believe it says v8-22 on the module
rsvert89 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 06:03 PM
  #4  
SB
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 3,668
From: On A Dirt Floor
Default

Tbolt V uses a mean best timing set up...using a knock sensor and tachometer......so very unconventional. It also has a special procedure to check base timing because of all of this. Do a search on it in google land to learn more...I'd have to write a small book to let you know all it's workings.

Tbolt IV is conventional...ie: doesn't adust for anuthing...just has an electronic advance.
SB is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 06:34 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Default

I know mine does not have a knock sensor. I have timed it before and there was a sequence of grounding a wire to set base timing if I remember correctly. Is it hard to switch to thunderbolt iv? Would my distributor be ok, and just change module/sensor in the distributor? Thank you for the help.
rsvert89 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 07:58 PM
  #6  
SB
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 3,668
From: On A Dirt Floor
Default

I could be wrong, but I have not seen a Tbolt V without a knock sensor.

Here, go nuts:
http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Servmanl/16/16B4R2.PDF


Edit in: oh, you would have to swap the module harness to go from a V to a IV.
SB is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 07:59 PM
  #7  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Default

Found a module from a thunderbolt IV that is V8-24. Anyone know if the wiring is the same?
rsvert89 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-08-2017 | 08:00 PM
  #8  
SB
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,068
Likes: 3,668
From: On A Dirt Floor
Default

Look up , we posted at same time...lol.
SB is offline  
Reply
Old 03-09-2017 | 01:04 AM
  #9  
Griff's Avatar
Charter Member # 55
25 Year Member
Charter Member
Super Moderators
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 20,232
Likes: 2,482
From: Omaha/LOTO
Default

From what I have read, Vortec heads do not like more than about 30* of timing.
Griff is offline  
Reply
Old 03-09-2017 | 12:27 PM
  #10  
Registered
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,208
Likes: 141
Default

Originally Posted by Griff
From what I have read, Vortec heads do not like more than about 30* of timing.
I would characterize it as not that they don't like more than 30* of timing but rather they don't respond as much to timing over that amount. I would still target 32*.
Trash is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.