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Old 08-28-2018 | 07:06 AM
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So a customer brought me a boat with a blown 509 in it with a 1071 blowershop blower and rootz efi being driven by a fast xfi control and a msd 6560 msd marine box. The motor had one dead cylinder, tore the engine down and had a broke intake pushrod and the lifter had jumped out. Fixed that with all new lifters pushrods and rocker arms. Ran the motor and now have 2 cylinders that aren’t firing in the cylinder. #6 and #8 they have spark outside the cylinder but it’s not the best. Replaced cap, rotor. Cleaned magnetic pickup. Swapped out the coil for another one. And still nothing. The msd is driven by the fast xfi. Could there be an underlying issue between the 2? I find it odd that it has spark outside the cylinder but won’t light it under compression. When cold you can hear it fire every now and then. Lifters were set to half a turn preload. Cranking compression is 155psi. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 08-28-2018 | 02:52 PM
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The XFI only triggers the MSD wouldn't have anything to do with strength of spark. Is the MSD wired straight to the battery, any chance of a bad ground to the motor, just thoughts.
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Old 08-28-2018 | 03:25 PM
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Best thing to check out a possible MSD box issue is with another box. Anyone around there have a good one to check with ?

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Why did the pushrod break ?
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Old 08-28-2018 | 04:18 PM
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I’m sure that it happens given the heavy duty aftermarket units, but I’ve never seen a broken pushrod myself. Is the cam any good or is it wiped flat making dead holes? Was it a Bob M cam and the valvetrain beat itself to death, lol.
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Old 08-28-2018 | 06:16 PM
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What lifters are you running ?
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Old 08-28-2018 | 08:12 PM
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What lifters are you running ?
it had the old Johnson’s so I replaced them with the comp 854 which are the same dimensions.
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Old 08-28-2018 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
I’m sure that it happens given the heavy duty aftermarket units, but I’ve never seen a broken pushrod myself. Is the cam any good or is it wiped flat making dead holes? Was it a Bob M cam and the valvetrain beat itself to death, lol.
cam is fine and the dead cylinders aren’t the ones that had pushrod issues.
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Old 08-29-2018 | 06:54 AM
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Check the rotor phasing. Can you send a close up photo of the tip of the rotor and the inside of the cap? You can tell if it is off by the location of the burn marks on the rotor and terminals.
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Check the rotor phasing. Can you send a close up photo of the tip of the rotor and the inside of the cap? You can tell if it is off by the location of the burn marks on the rotor and terminals.
this is a good point, but why only the 2 cylinders affected by phasing?
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Old 09-01-2018 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by adk61
this is a good point, but why only the 2 cylinders affected by phasing?
Who knows, but rotor phasing is one of the the first things i would check when it looks OK mechanically. Especially when the ignition is controlled by the efi. Connecting the pickup backwards will cause this also.
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