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Old 12-01-2025 | 04:39 PM
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A time for intense compassion and respect—and nothing more, https://speedonthewater.com/commenta...in-cape-coral/
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Old 12-01-2025 | 06:21 PM
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Agree 100% !!!
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Old 12-01-2025 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Trulio
A time for intense compassion and respect—and nothing more, https://speedonthewater.com/commenta...in-cape-coral/
Part of respecting the lives lost is to figure out what happened so that others do not meet the same fate. It may be premature, but if the numbers really do pan out that many accidents are due to the MTI 390 that information should come to light immediately. Typically these opinions may be anecdotal, but this boat has taken the lives of several guys that had the experience and seat time that it should just not happen. Frankly, it would be disrespectful not discussing the possibilities. It would honor the lost if, indeed, it is found that the 390 is a problem and that information saves another life or lives.

Clearly, this is just my opinion..
Old 12-02-2025 | 04:33 AM
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OSO is the perfect place to have a healthy discussion to learn and grow from this accident.

Obviously there are times and places that may not be as appropriate, hypothetical example, commenting on the obituary.

But this IS the place and the time to learn from this, and for us passionate powerboaters to mourn in our own way. Even if we were not close friends we are still performance boat family.

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Old 12-02-2025 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 36Tango
Part of respecting the lives lost is to figure out what happened so that others do not meet the same fate. It may be premature, but if the numbers really do pan out that many accidents are due to the MTI 390 that information should come to light immediately. Typically these opinions may be anecdotal, but this boat has taken the lives of several guys that had the experience and seat time that it should just not happen. Frankly, it would be disrespectful not discussing the possibilities. It would honor the lost if, indeed, it is found that the 390 is a problem and that information saves another life or lives.

Clearly, this is just my opinion..
I would add.
That just because you have a high performance boat, the funds to operate it..
Does not make you a knowledgeable captain
So much can go wrong at high speeds
No way would I say to slow them down
I have not read how fast this boat was going
But prudence would be ..in a river with many other boats, plus boats, barges not affiliated with the event..that maybe speed limits should be part of the solution , as well as real time weather info.

Oh yes its a thrill that will get you at 100 plus
but closed course or other means to reduce risk
should be part of the solution
Captains that have the ability to run high speeds
should be trained and certified
We have all seen boats in races at less speed decide hey its time to fly .
I was not there, I do not know how much congestion was in area, I did read about he weather, not being the norm, with odd winds and gusts.
weather is or can be a real bitotch
Poker runs, etc are fun. .
the boats, yes the performance boats are great.

But these are not races...
people do dumb ****.
Just because a boat can run real fast, does not mean thats what needs to happen
Risk management needs to be improved
i like watching these events as well as participating
I would hate to see them go away
texoma is a perfect example of how **** went wrong, got worse and killed people
all stopped for far to long.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 10:02 AM
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Trying to hide the 390X faults (maybe because MTI is a sponsor? God, I hope that`s not the case, that would be sick.) reminds me of guys that complain about their engine builder screwing them over but wont say the name. So then more guys get screwed because the information isn`t out there .
I`d rather have discussion so more people don`t have the same outcome..
Negative comments about MTI seem to disapear on Facebook.
It`s irresponsible to make people feel bad about this discussion..

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Old 12-02-2025 | 12:16 PM
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My old Flight Instructor was a good ol' boy that taught allot of regular folks about flying. One of the tidbits that I learned from him 30 years ago was that he wanted me to look at all of the NTSB accident reports, both preliminary and final (Pilot Debrief on YouTube does a great job). He told me to really look at why general aviation airplanes crash, and simply do not do that. I learned very quickly that if I did not overload, run out of fuel, fly into weather, do stupid maneuvers to impress others I could eliminate 90% of the accidents. Add to that making certain that the plane is in good mechanical order and plenty of training in that type and model probably 99% of accidents can be avoided.

By looking at accidents a guy can learn what NOT to do. How many on here have even thought about a strong gusty wind making your relative speed to the wind jump from 100 mph to possibly 140mph, well beyond the design limits? Hopefully, even though it is preliminary, even that little nugget may save some grief down the road. If the 390X is a problem, don't drive one and that risk is eliminated.

Of course my thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those hurt and killed in this horrible accident.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 01:32 PM
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Sorry Matt but you are wrong on this point. If you look at the comments and ‘thumbs’ you will see that almost no one agrees with your perspective.

The collective view is -pay respect to those who have lost their lives but learn from their mistakes so that others do not suffer the same fate. Many excellent examples made by this group of posters.
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Old 12-02-2025 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 36Tango
My old Flight Instructor was a good ol' boy that taught allot of regular folks about flying. One of the tidbits that I learned from him 30 years ago was that he wanted me to look at all of the NTSB accident reports, both preliminary and final (Pilot Debrief on YouTube does a great job). He told me to really look at why general aviation airplanes crash, and simply do not do that. I learned very quickly that if I did not overload, run out of fuel, fly into weather, do stupid maneuvers to impress others I could eliminate 90% of the accidents. Add to that making certain that the plane is in good mechanical order and plenty of training in that type and model probably 99% of accidents can be avoided.

By looking at accidents a guy can learn what NOT to do. How many on here have even thought about a strong gusty wind making your relative speed to the wind jump from 100 mph to possibly 140mph, well beyond the design limits? Hopefully, even though it is preliminary, even that little nugget may save some grief down the road. If the 390X is a problem, don't drive one and that risk is eliminated.

Of course my thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those hurt and killed in this horrible accident.
you reminded me of the 1st day... NEVER RUN OUT OF FUEL prior to the end of the scheduled flight plan.
discussion is awesome,
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Old 12-02-2025 | 08:27 PM
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losing these wonderful folks should not be acceptable at all and it hurts all of us performance boaters as it was preventable. in todays tech world where we can watch a rocket doing 5000mph do a back flip fire up a few engines and steer with thrusters and aero vanes to either a small barge in the ocean or an landing zone with x on it and it nails it....... i,m in awe every time, we as a sport can do better we now have engines to push a very large cat faster than most aircraft take off and we have no aerodynamic control, the parts and electronic sensors are cheap and readily available even your cell phone has them we must do better!..........an old saying........try to not let the purpose of your life serve as a warning to others
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