Who has the fastest Eagle XP?
04-04-2003 | 03:57 PM
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Who has the fastest Eagle XP?
Who has the fastest eagle XP. 23,25,26,28? I saw that 28 bullett going 108 in powerboat mag and was wondering how fast these single engine vee's are going. Greg
04-05-2003 | 06:04 PM
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How fast??
Junkie
when sitting in a bar and a guy tells you his boat runs 93 or so ,do you really believe him?
When reading those stories, always remember the 10 to 20 mph rule,deducts at least that amount and you will be close to the right speed.. afterall they do want to sell boats!!
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when sitting in a bar and a guy tells you his boat runs 93 or so ,do you really believe him?
When reading those stories, always remember the 10 to 20 mph rule,deducts at least that amount and you will be close to the right speed.. afterall they do want to sell boats!!
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04-06-2003 | 04:57 PM
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Mine does 93 and its not 10 off. I know what your saying though. I heard that theres a 25 XP near chicago that is really fast and I'm looking for him/her? Id like to know about the setup and so on. Greg
04-08-2003 | 09:38 PM
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I have a 25 Eagle,blown 509,standoff box,full hydraulic,280-s k-tabs.
The best so far is 98.7 on gps...2 people,3/4 tank of fuel at Havasu in some serious heat...
The guys at the factory tell me that there is a 25 Eagle in the midwest that runs 110
HPjunkie,what type of set up are you running?
The best so far is 98.7 on gps...2 people,3/4 tank of fuel at Havasu in some serious heat...
The guys at the factory tell me that there is a 25 Eagle in the midwest that runs 110
HPjunkie,what type of set up are you running?
04-09-2003 | 07:58 AM
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Playdeep,
I just bought a 25 Eagle in september with no motor or drive. I installed the motor out of my stingray and went out and ran 92.8 on GPS. I've running a stock bravo 1.5 drive, 28 bravo 1 prop, stock shortblock 502, Brodix bb2plus heads crane "741" Roller cam on a 114c/l Dart intake , 850 Nickerson carb and an intercooled procharger M-1 making 7 psi in the manifold. That speed was with me in it 195# and a full tank of gas.
Did you add the standoff box? Did you see any gains in handling or speed? Do the tabs get used at that speed? I dont have tabs, but I was wondering wether I needed them or not. What drive length do you run std ,1,2,3" shortie? Are you using the bravo 1 or a 3 blade prop? Is it squirrley or can it be driven?
I was kind of looking for that midwest 110mph guy and I thought he might turn up here, Im going to post on some other sites also.
Is the bottom of your boat stock or worked on? I will probably sharpen the edges on my botttom after I can get some consistent numbers to baseline.
The guy that owned this boat before me was running a 598 N/A motor and ran 93 and change all day. I put a 27 mirage on it myself and he went out and came back smiling with the gps reading 97.9! I intend to try a new 29 mirage soon to note any difference.
Whats your elevation?
Were at 650' or so here. Im sure your over the century mark at sea level or so.
There are 2 guys on the Eliminator forums that have fast eagles as well. Both of these guys report instability at 95 or so thats why Im asking you about your set up. I hope to be there someday.
Anyway thanks for the response Greg Maurer 815-218-1603
I just bought a 25 Eagle in september with no motor or drive. I installed the motor out of my stingray and went out and ran 92.8 on GPS. I've running a stock bravo 1.5 drive, 28 bravo 1 prop, stock shortblock 502, Brodix bb2plus heads crane "741" Roller cam on a 114c/l Dart intake , 850 Nickerson carb and an intercooled procharger M-1 making 7 psi in the manifold. That speed was with me in it 195# and a full tank of gas.
Did you add the standoff box? Did you see any gains in handling or speed? Do the tabs get used at that speed? I dont have tabs, but I was wondering wether I needed them or not. What drive length do you run std ,1,2,3" shortie? Are you using the bravo 1 or a 3 blade prop? Is it squirrley or can it be driven?
I was kind of looking for that midwest 110mph guy and I thought he might turn up here, Im going to post on some other sites also.
Is the bottom of your boat stock or worked on? I will probably sharpen the edges on my botttom after I can get some consistent numbers to baseline.
The guy that owned this boat before me was running a 598 N/A motor and ran 93 and change all day. I put a 27 mirage on it myself and he went out and came back smiling with the gps reading 97.9! I intend to try a new 29 mirage soon to note any difference.
Whats your elevation?
Were at 650' or so here. Im sure your over the century mark at sea level or so.
There are 2 guys on the Eliminator forums that have fast eagles as well. Both of these guys report instability at 95 or so thats why Im asking you about your set up. I hope to be there someday.
Anyway thanks for the response Greg Maurer 815-218-1603
04-09-2003 | 08:27 PM
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Greg,
Glad your project is going so well. To give you an update on my 1997 25 Eagle XP. 502, M-3 5lb boost, ran 84 on GPS last fall. As long as I turned right slightly no chine walk. Straight, minimal chine walk. This winter I installed external steering, and just ordered an Imco Extreme SC lower, due to a twisted spline and the fact that my wife forgot to raise the trim up after we pulled the boat out. That was a bad sound. I talked to some people about going with a shortened drive. They indicated that it would depend on the "X" dimension of the boat. Eliminator did not install all drives with the same "X" dimensions. I chose to go with the standard length drive because I enjoy no prop cavitation on planing. I can pull my boy skiing at under 20 mph. But I can tell I am right on the edge of cavitation now. I do feel that shortening the drive would help with top speed a lot.
At 84 the boat didn't scare me. I think a 3 blade prop may help my top end performance because I feel a little too much transom lift, but I love the all around performance of my 30p Bravo. How did yours feel at 90's? My gut feeling is that an extension box with 2 or 3 inch raise would be the ticket. I can read between the lines....you want triple digits.....go for it!
Glad your project is going so well. To give you an update on my 1997 25 Eagle XP. 502, M-3 5lb boost, ran 84 on GPS last fall. As long as I turned right slightly no chine walk. Straight, minimal chine walk. This winter I installed external steering, and just ordered an Imco Extreme SC lower, due to a twisted spline and the fact that my wife forgot to raise the trim up after we pulled the boat out. That was a bad sound. I talked to some people about going with a shortened drive. They indicated that it would depend on the "X" dimension of the boat. Eliminator did not install all drives with the same "X" dimensions. I chose to go with the standard length drive because I enjoy no prop cavitation on planing. I can pull my boy skiing at under 20 mph. But I can tell I am right on the edge of cavitation now. I do feel that shortening the drive would help with top speed a lot.
At 84 the boat didn't scare me. I think a 3 blade prop may help my top end performance because I feel a little too much transom lift, but I love the all around performance of my 30p Bravo. How did yours feel at 90's? My gut feeling is that an extension box with 2 or 3 inch raise would be the ticket. I can read between the lines....you want triple digits.....go for it!
04-09-2003 | 09:37 PM
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HPjunkie,
If you ran mid 90's with a 3 blade,my hat's off to you...
I talked to Brett Leach at the factory and he said the 25's get kinda scary with a 3 blade,he said by far the best prop for the boat is a Bravo1.
I purchased the boat with the stand-off box,but have driven a couple of 25's with blower motors and no box..the difference is amazing.As KYEagle mentioned,a ex. box will raise your X-dimension 2-3 inches,in addition to putting the prop back in cleaner water...another plus is that it takes a lot less positive trim to run at higher speeds...factory told me 4-6mph gain by adding a stand off box.
At 90 and above,when it starts to chine,I move the wheel back and forth slightly and it seems to allieviate the problem...
The spec's on my boat...
509,carrillo rods,JE pistons,edelbrock aluminum heads,b&m 420 megablower,Basset headers,Holley 750's(boost referenced),4lb's of boost,no innercooler,very docile set up,maybe a little over 700hp.
XZ drive,1.50 gears 30p Bravo1(non labbed)
I have only had the boat for a short time,so I am still learning the nuances of how to make it dance...
The only time I use the tabs is in rough water,to bury the nose.
A couple of weeks ago in Havasu I ran out of prop so I am gonna try a 32p in hopes of triple digits.
My cell# is 505-620-7622 in case you ever want to talk boat....
btw,I know the guy that owns the 28 Howard Bullit that ran 104 in Hot Boat,for the test that thing was set on KILL...1000+hp,double digit boost,race fuel,etc...shortly after the 104 run they backed it down in order to be a reliable lake boat...The thing now runs upper 80's to low 90's.
Michael
If you ran mid 90's with a 3 blade,my hat's off to you...
I talked to Brett Leach at the factory and he said the 25's get kinda scary with a 3 blade,he said by far the best prop for the boat is a Bravo1.
I purchased the boat with the stand-off box,but have driven a couple of 25's with blower motors and no box..the difference is amazing.As KYEagle mentioned,a ex. box will raise your X-dimension 2-3 inches,in addition to putting the prop back in cleaner water...another plus is that it takes a lot less positive trim to run at higher speeds...factory told me 4-6mph gain by adding a stand off box.
At 90 and above,when it starts to chine,I move the wheel back and forth slightly and it seems to allieviate the problem...
The spec's on my boat...
509,carrillo rods,JE pistons,edelbrock aluminum heads,b&m 420 megablower,Basset headers,Holley 750's(boost referenced),4lb's of boost,no innercooler,very docile set up,maybe a little over 700hp.
XZ drive,1.50 gears 30p Bravo1(non labbed)
I have only had the boat for a short time,so I am still learning the nuances of how to make it dance...
The only time I use the tabs is in rough water,to bury the nose.
A couple of weeks ago in Havasu I ran out of prop so I am gonna try a 32p in hopes of triple digits.
My cell# is 505-620-7622 in case you ever want to talk boat....
btw,I know the guy that owns the 28 Howard Bullit that ran 104 in Hot Boat,for the test that thing was set on KILL...1000+hp,double digit boost,race fuel,etc...shortly after the 104 run they backed it down in order to be a reliable lake boat...The thing now runs upper 80's to low 90's.
Michael
04-10-2003 | 07:55 AM
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KY, Playdeep,
My boat seems to run faster when its on the last step verses trying to run it on the pad only at 60 or 70. At 92 I'm watching the water surface and the fuel pressure. Not much time to play with the trim. Actually during the 92 mph runs the trim was set the same as the best setting was at 70 or so. Are you guys saying that your getting more speed with more trim? Then is the chine walking more prevelant?
Play, I didnt drive the boat with the 3 blade I just put the prop on and the previous owner ran it. I just inspected the GPS. that standoff box must make a big difference. Did you say its a 3 " rise box or neutral? Greg
My boat seems to run faster when its on the last step verses trying to run it on the pad only at 60 or 70. At 92 I'm watching the water surface and the fuel pressure. Not much time to play with the trim. Actually during the 92 mph runs the trim was set the same as the best setting was at 70 or so. Are you guys saying that your getting more speed with more trim? Then is the chine walking more prevelant?
Play, I didnt drive the boat with the 3 blade I just put the prop on and the previous owner ran it. I just inspected the GPS. that standoff box must make a big difference. Did you say its a 3 " rise box or neutral? Greg
04-14-2003 | 06:53 AM
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My elevation is 830. With more trim did have more chine walk, the chine walk is worst when backing off of the throttle. My thinking is this shifts center of gravity forward, decreases transom lift from prop.
