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28 Skater with 3 2.5's
I know that 3 2.5' s will throw off the weight of the boat it might be to stern heavy but has it been done. I would like to put 3 300x's but that will be to heavy for sure. What type of speeds do you think you can run with 3 2.5's stock? And how about 2.5's modified like Charlie's? I would think this set up will not take jack plates as it will push the weight further back. Would the boat be unsafe to drive to much speed for a 28?
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
it has been done,also a 32 with 4 300 called scorpion and paul whittier did old 32 with quads
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
It HAS NOT BEEN DONE. The Sting has 4 2.5,s so did Whittier. There are a few triple 28's but not all 2.5's. I think it would be a waste of time and money to do 300's and it probably wouldn't handle well at all.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Ryan with triple stock 2.5's what do you estimate that the boat will run? 125ish more or less. Now what do you think it will run with 3 2.5's modified by Diamond? 135ish more or less. Aren't the 2.5's problematic?
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Alex where are you boating at? 3 2.5 set up right will run 130ish , 3 pumped motors maybe 140ish , but the boat is too small for that, do you have a death wish? My 24 doesn't go 100 and its fast enough. They only days a 28 will ever go that fast is if it mirror calm. Lets be realistic about htis, the is no need to go that fast in a PLEASURE boat thats 28 feet long. Fast YES, cool maybe, dangerous FOR SURE.
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There is a triple engine 28' at LOTO. It was built for AB and now it is owned by someone else running around.
300's or 2.5's doesn't make any difference. Its too much ass weight for anything other than really calm water. Three engine 32's or three engine any cat it not the best as the center engine gets beat to death. |
Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
My friend has a 24 Skater with twin 2.5's with a little work by Diamond and he has gone 122 on GPS. I would love to build a 32B but there are slow with outboards. You can go faster on a 28 than a 32 with one less engine. One engine less is one headache less. I dont know of any 32 with 3 outboards thats touch 125.
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A well set up 32 classic with STRONG 2.5's should run close to 125. There were a few Pro Stock triples that were right at 120 with stock motors. Your buddies 24' is fast but only up to a 2 foot chop.
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Isn't the 32B faster than the Classic? Also what should the classic run with 3 300x's? I know the the 300x's come in 20in but they sell a kit to convert them to 15in I think coverting them down to a 15in should give you a little more mph the CG should be better than having that big heavy head so high up? So a tripple 32 Classic is faster than a 32B? Thanks for a the info by the way.
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I don't know how a 32' B runs, but I know that the classic can run those speeds. No one has done a B set up like a race boat, the class died befre the B came out. I think the B runs better with I/O than the classic. It is MUCH larger more like a 36.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
What do you mean by race set up? I know someone who has a 32B with 3 300x's and runs 120pmh. I would like to run 125 or more if possible don't know if the 300x's will be better than the 2.5's for this application the 300 are torque monsters.
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I'm a 2.5 fan myself but , I know some people have sucess with the 300. I haven't heard of an 120+ 300 boats but there are probably some out there. I would think you could do it better/ easier with the 2.5. Race set up like the old pro stock class boats, by someont that really know what they are doing. Like John Vanderstel at offshore concepts. Where do you boat at ?
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Ryan I do 100% of boating here in Miami Fl, you know Bayside, Elliott Key, Government Cut and so forth. So you think 2.5's is the way to go then. I'm looking at 2 32's one a B the other a Classic. The 32B has 300x' and so does the Classic. The 32B has so much interior space. And I'm aslo looking at some 28's. SPEED!!!!!!
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
There was a green 32' B with triple 300x non canopy boat. One of the early 32' B as it was before the canopy deck.
It runs in the low 120's I believe. Mills Brown built the Classic 32 with triple 300x's that is on the Skater Powerboats web page. It ran a reliable 122 when Mills had it. It supposebly ran faster when the new owner ran it with a much higher X dim. Both boats eat lowers on the center engine. Classic 32' with twin 300x's will run 110-112. Phil Albright has one with that setup. |
Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Ryan, Where did Gary's 1st doug wright from last year and part of this year go to?
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The first Mapei was sold to an English guy to be race in the middle east part of the UIM class III 6 litre series.
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What would be a good prediction of what the new 32 4 seater DW run with a pair of 300x's or 2.5's. I know what the race boats run, just curious to what the pleasure version will run. If there ever is a time where I think about moving up from a 28 Skater, I would love to look into a 32 DW.
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32' DW 115 plus
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Originally Posted by Alex17
I know that 3 2.5' s will throw off the weight of the boat it might be to stern heavy but has it been done. I would like to put 3 300x's but that will be to heavy for sure. What type of speeds do you think you can run with 3 2.5's stock? And how about 2.5's modified like Charlie's? I would think this set up will not take jack plates as it will push the weight further back. Would the boat be unsafe to drive to much speed for a 28?
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I looked at a 32 Skater that had tripple 280's with thru hull water pickups and it would run 118 GPS according to the owner. It was a Kevlar layup
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Is it t rue that when you have triples on a cat the center engine is always breaking down or is that overrated.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Originally Posted by Alex17
Is it t rue that when you have triples on a cat the center engine is always breaking down or is that overrated.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
I Rigged A Few Of Them. The Middle Engine Get's Tortured. Sheared Cases Are A Common Thing. On One Cat I Checked Th Brains After A Hard Hittin Pass, The Outer Engines Hit The Limiters Around 100 Or 120 Times. The Center Engine Hit The Limiter Almost 800 Times. Some Cats Run A Ccenter Pod To Cut Down On The Torture.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Apache 21, What 32 with 280,s did U look at ? And how's your 28 hunt going?
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I didn't think the 32B was made for outboards. Did they produce any? I am in the market looking for a 32 classic with twin 300x's but having trouble finding any for sale that are newer than 2001. Apparently there weren't many made since '01. Anyone know of any available out there? 95mph boat right? And if there are any 32B's with twin 300x's how do they run relative to the classic?
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
My buddy has a 96 that he may be willing to sell. Its got 2001 promaxs and new vinyl graphics.
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His runs 101 MPH
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looking for a hull that is 2001 or newer
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Try Hydro on the board here
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I too know the prior and current owners of the boat formerly known as KING STING, now called SHOOTOUT. The 28 with the center engine does make it tail heavy and the real performance gain noted by the center engine is acceleration. If you predominantly run in smooth water the damage to the center engine is reduced but by far not eliminated. Handling in rough water is definitely compromised by having the third engine.
There have been 32B models built with triples. TEAM RUDDEN had triple 300's and didn't run well at all. He had the boat converted back to inboards. |
Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Everyone has tould me that the 32B dosen't like outboards it runs the best with inboards. The 32 Classic will be faster with the same power than the 32B with outboards.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Check out this video of a 28 with 3 2.5's. http://forums.screamandfly.com/Gall....php/photo/7901
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I have heard that a tripple engine 28 is built diffrently from a twin engine 28. I have seen a tripple engine 28 with mod 2.5 and nitrous run better then 135. The boat rides perfect at those speeds. If you want a tripple engine 28 you have to find one built for that.
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I don't believe that they are built different I believe its the same exact boat just with the third engine in the back. I have never heard of any other then the normal 28. I can't see what would be different except maybe for a center pod but other than that thats all i can think off.
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That is what the guy told me about his 28 with tripples. It is similar to how twin engine 21's are built stronger then the single engine 21's. People say that if you turn a single engine 21 into a twin it will not ride and handle properly. I believe that there were only 7 or 8 twin engine 21's origionally built from the skater factory.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Do you have the guys # that owns that 28 with the triples.
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
I sent you a PM
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Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Originally Posted by CrazyClyde
That is what the guy told me about his 28 with tripples. It is similar to how twin engine 21's are built stronger then the single engine 21's. People say that if you turn a single engine 21 into a twin it will not ride and handle properly. I believe that there were only 7 or 8 twin engine 21's origionally built from the skater factory.
That is true about the 21's. Trust me, been there, done that. I had a 21 coverted with twins and it porpoused so bad around 78mph, it almost though you out of the boat. Skater told me they were definitely built different. I now have a original 21 built for twins from the factory and this thing rips! I also have a 30 Motion with triple 280's. I definitely don't offshore race but as far as the center motor taking a beating, I've never had a problem. By the way the 30 is for sale. Later, Dave |
Re: 28 Skater with 3 2.5's
Originally Posted by Shane
I too know the prior and current owners of the boat formerly known as KING STING, now called SHOOTOUT. The 28 with the center engine does make it tail heavy and the real performance gain noted by the center engine is acceleration. If you predominantly run in smooth water the damage to the center engine is reduced but by far not eliminated. Handling in rough water is definitely compromised by having the third engine.
There have been 32B models built with triples. TEAM RUDDEN had triple 300's and didn't run well at all. He had the boat converted back to inboards. |
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