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ryder638 11-05-2011 06:27 PM

30 with triples
 
has anyone put triple 300xs' on a new 30"?

Double Rigged 11-05-2011 07:37 PM

I have spoken to Peter about it but he does not recommend or like the idea. Says middle motor takes a beating. I have thought about building one many times.. Don't think has.

ryder638 11-05-2011 09:32 PM

really, there are plenty of 28's with trips i wonder what the difference is.... I like the 30's but i think they only do 102mph tops and thats not going to cut it for me.

KEVLARKAT32 11-07-2011 08:46 AM

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Please look at this picture and inform us how a third engine is installed

JIMKID Motorsports 11-07-2011 09:04 AM

it needs two seven marine motors now your talking i know the weight is big but ballast it some how

KEVLARKAT32 11-07-2011 09:22 AM

Two of those heavy hunk of **** engines cost 150 k and the boat in pic could be bought with 300 xs for 150 k .

Seven marine wont be around in two yrs @ 70 k per engine

Double Rigged 11-07-2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3544145)
Please look at this picture and inform us how a third engine is installed

As you guys know Peter at Skater can build anything if you have the $$$. I am sure he can reconstruct the transom. The Flat deck started out the same way. Look how popular that is now. Those decks are built from scratch. No mold.

KEVLARKAT32 11-07-2011 03:14 PM

Your right if you have the money anyone will make it happen for sure but what jackass would want this ? Also nobody builds a hull or deck without a mold , maybe he pops a deck and tweaks it not to build a complete hull or deck ?

ryder638 11-07-2011 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3544455)
Your right if you have the money anyone will make it happen for sure but what jackass would want this ? Also nobody builds a hull or deck without a mold , maybe he pops a deck and tweaks it not to build a complete hull or deck ?

explain what would be stupid about putting a 3rd motor on a 30.... my 24 came from skater with triples, i heard he built two of them. there are plenty 28's with triples. i think with very little transom work the 30 would be great with 3. 30's and 32's for that matter, are just to dam slow with twins

davidmercury 11-07-2011 05:14 PM

i'd definately reccommend triples:coolcowboy:

triple 300s 11-07-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3544145)
Please look at this picture and inform us how a third engine is installed

install a jack plate and an engine in the middle...and then go fast.

KEVLARKAT32 11-07-2011 07:28 PM

way too slow ???? Yes in the skater world 105 might be slow but can count on one hand the number of boats on Cheasapeake that run above 100 MPH everyday . A third engine is not worth the 15-20 mph . Just step up to plate and buy a skater I O and go 160

skate 11-07-2011 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 3544156)
it needs two seven marine motors now your talking i know the weight is big but ballast it some how

Somebody needs to do it just for the wow factor. I agree they probably won't be in business in a few years and the wieght and drives would be an issue but two motors and more HP than three 300XS's!

Has anyone just bolted on the 300X's. That should be worth a few MPH. As I get older I appreciate the comfort and safety of the bigger hull in big water.

JIMKID Motorsports 11-08-2011 10:52 AM

yes jimmy johns has one with 300x motors on it not shure what the top speed was on it was wourth a few more

Double Rigged 11-08-2011 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 3545050)
yes jimmy johns has one with 300x motors on it not shure what the top speed was on it was wourth a few more

I heard Jimmy Johns boat didn't not run well with intial set up. Boat was running barely a 100mph. Have a friend with a 30' Skater in NC w/300x's and he has seen 112mph in ideal conditions light.
Most 30's run around 100mph best case with 2 300xs's . I think one with triple 300xs's and DBR mods w/cowlings would run over 115mph and accelerate really good. Not sure how much better it rides in the rough though over the 28 with a good balanced set up? I think I/O's are good if you have a lot of money for the engine package but there is something to be said about not having all the maintanence especially in salt water.

TeamSaris 11-08-2011 11:14 AM

The acceloration and handling make it worth it. A 32 a needs tripples to run as far as im concerned. a 30 with tripps would be the tits!

KEVLARKAT32 11-08-2011 11:58 AM

How fast was Stylin with triples ? 105 ?

TeamSaris 11-08-2011 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3545092)
How fast was Stylin with triples ? 105 ?

106 with 1990s prop technology. Not the point though, the boat will never handle as good as it did then without tripples. And it will NEVER accelorate as well. Those motors were also right on the transom. Twins on a 32 just dont work as well.

KEVLARKAT32 11-08-2011 01:43 PM

My boat ahould accrding to Shaun run 105-108 with me 3.2 Litre EFI stokers and gueass what , 6 less pistons and a gearcase to worry about . In the beginning of my project I got asked why not triples ? I replied I dont hate myself that much !! Not worth the B.S

Baja555 11-08-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3545065)
The acceloration and handling make it worth it. A 32 a needs tripples to run as far as im concerned. a 30 with tripps would be the tits!

+1... a 32 classic w/ twin 300x's 100 -101.. and they wont handle the rough any better than a 28..

Baja555 11-08-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3544455)
Your right if you have the money anyone will make it happen for sure but what jackass would want this ? Also nobody builds a hull or deck without a mold , maybe he pops a deck and tweaks it not to build a complete hull or deck ?

there aren't any deck molds...built from scratch..

KEVLARKAT32 11-08-2011 04:51 PM

Ok they just roll glass out on floor ???????????????????? Please inform us how anyone can make a part without a mold

Baja555 11-08-2011 04:55 PM

I cant tell you how he does it, but there aren't molds...

Baja555 11-08-2011 04:56 PM

I believe there are molds for the 24 and 28

KEVLARKAT32 11-08-2011 05:08 PM

Bill ,

We cant be on same page , your telling me they make hull and deck without a mold ?????? Please tell me you dont believe this . I think your confused and they more than likely make hull and deck Plug with CNC router but no hull or deck parts are made without mold .................

That is like saying a qtr panel is not stamped in 100 ton press , it is just pulled from thin air and no mold involved . And yes they do make metal parts with air pressure but it still involves a mold

Double Rigged 11-08-2011 07:28 PM

Hulls have molds. Std decks have molds. Only part that is custom is when they cut down hull and install flat deck fwd section only. Rest of boat from mold.

davidmercury 11-08-2011 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3545092)
How fast was Stylin with triples ? 105 ?

it probably had the older 260 hp 2.5's or 240 hp 2.4s so slower than what is still available now

TeamSaris 11-08-2011 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3545282)
+1... a 32 classic w/ twin 300x's 100 -101.. and they wont handle the rough any better than a 28..

Exactly. Balance is all off

TeamSaris 11-08-2011 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by da*****rcury (Post 3545521)
it probably had the older 260 hp 2.5's or 240 hp 2.4s so slower than what is still available now

Ran 97 with 240s 106 with 260s

KEVLARKAT32 11-09-2011 05:47 AM

Wait a min , a 32 classic with twin 300 wont run any better than a 28 with twins ??? WTF are you for real ???? Take my 32 , pair 300 x - 1010 LBS , 3 260 hp - 1125 LBS . I have been told from people who owned both that a 32 is night and day compared toa 28 in rough water .

TeamSaris 11-09-2011 08:26 AM

A 32 B maybe, but the A needs the extra weight back there. I dont know how 3 3.0s would be balanced but 3 2.5s was just right. In rough water we ran 3 cleavers, in calm water we ran an RE4 on the middle motor so we could tuck in and air it out just as well. Put us a leg up!

Baja555 11-09-2011 03:19 PM

When I bought mine I talked to Peter because I wanted a 32 , He's the one that told me the 32 would not do any better in the rough than the 28 and the 28 has more top end.. comparing 2 motors to 2 motors.. putting the third on makes a difference though.. way more acceleration..

RunninHotRacing163.1 11-09-2011 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3545310)
I cant tell you how he does it, but there aren't molds...

:bong:



ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rock
ITS A SKATER NATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:booze1:

Baja555 11-09-2011 03:27 PM

Hey Bill, your back..

KEVLARKAT32 11-09-2011 04:20 PM

Wow cant believe 115 pounds can make that much difference ? Three 260 hp is 1125 lbs and two 3 Litre 505 lbs . Think about you said it needs more weight back there and it was perfect with three 375 lbs engines (1125lbs) without jack-plate . So pair 3 litres 505 each ( 1010 ) total and the CG ( center grav ) moved back because jack-plates accord to my calc will be balanced the same as when you set it up with triples ? Not trying to be a dick I just want you to hear my logic .
Larry

TeamSaris 11-09-2011 09:24 PM

Makes sense to me, only thing youll be missing is the punch to keep the boat running on top. Youll have the perfect mix of reliability and speed!

KEVLARKAT32 11-09-2011 09:40 PM

It's a hunk of **** , come take it back

TeamSaris 11-10-2011 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by KEVLARKAT32 (Post 3546525)
It's a hunk of **** , come take it back

Its a race winning boat, not a pos. If your serious shoot me an offer though

ryder638 11-15-2011 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3545065)
The acceloration and handling make it worth it. A 32 a needs tripples to run as far as im concerned. a 30 with tripps would be the tits!

I'm with you 100%


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