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no more sonic boats?
is frisini motor sports who purchased sonic and spectre power boats no longer producing sonic boats? their web site does'nt show 26, 31 , and 35 foot sonics ?
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Originally Posted by 26sonic
(Post 3856600)
is frisini motor sports who purchased sonic and spectre power boats no longer producing sonic boats? their web site does'nt show 26, 31 , and 35 foot sonics ?
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Actually, their website used to show the 31 and now it doesn't. Given the fact that they don't even respond to their Sonic customer base, I have to assume they only want to sell high end, high cost, bigger boats.
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I was talking to Bruce yesterday and he said they are still doing the 26, and 31s but there focuses right now is there bigger boats and a new Cat there working on.
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Way to listen to the customer base... not.
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Originally Posted by teamsynergy
(Post 3857544)
Way to listen to the customer base... not.
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To be honest, I shopped a long time in hopes of finding the boat that fit my boating style perfectly. The 31ss did so and currently still does. While I do not foresee purchasing a "NEW" boat in the very near future, what is the market currently demanding? Are people like me (I can't use you as an example as I don't know you) dropping 500-750k on new boats right now... sure but not a lot of them. I would think the 26-36' range would be more of a focal point for them and should be more specific to their business model unless they want to build less boats, while trying to acheive a low profit margin building a handful of bigger boats... Then again, not my company, not my money. My opinion only...
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Originally Posted by teamsynergy
(Post 3857644)
To be honest, I shopped a long time in hopes of finding the boat that fit my boating style perfectly. The 31ss did so and currently still does. While I do not foresee purchasing a "NEW" boat in the very near future, what is the market currently demanding? Are people like me (I can't use you as an example as I don't know you) dropping 500-750k on new boats right now... sure but not a lot of them. I would think the 26-36' range would be more of a focal point for them and should be more specific to their business model unless they want to build less boats, while trying to acheive a low profit margin building a handful of bigger boats... Then again, not my company, not my money. My opinion only...
What scares me is what is gonna be left for used boats in 10 years? |
This link shows the problem with a new 30-35ft $200K-$300K boat with 525's.......................there's some bad ass boats right there, and who in their right mind would go buy a shorter, slower, boat for the same money??????? The boat styles dont change as fast as cars , where a new style is out every 2-3 years. Most of the boats still look the same as they did in the early 2000's.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...ut=&hw_num=100 |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 3857659)
This link shows the problem with a new 30-35ft $200K-$300K boat with 525's.......................there's some bad ass boats right there, and who in their right mind would go buy a shorter, slower, boat for the same money??????? The boat styles dont change as fast as cars , where a new style is out every 2-3 years. Most of the boats still look the same as they did in the early 2000's.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...ut=&hw_num=100 The cost delta from new to old has grown out of control. And the banks at boat shows fighting for your business are gone. In the early 2000's I bought a boat new with "boat show special" 2.99 financing. The same boat a few years old was only $10k less on the used market. Good chance that I will never purchase a new boat again. |
A few years back a friend was shopping for a 42 sonic. When he asked Jay why it cost twice as much as a 31 with the same power, the answer was " because thats how it is". big profit in big boats. small profit in small boats. Assuming you can move the product, which would you build?
That said, I bought 3 new boats, then the 38 used. Saved $200K by letting someone else own the 38 for the first 5 years. Not sure another new one will ever be in the cards for me either. |
Reading these comments, and going through the link(s, you know how that whole surfing thing goes)..I can't agree more..I would NEVER be able to afford a boat that costs half as much as my house, let alone the same or more!! I have a 88 35se that I picked up for $18k with a real nice aluminum trailer, twin 454's with blowers..one has one season on a complete rebuild, bored 30 over forged everything, the other motor was in pieces...I'll have about $3000-$3500 making that motor match. total done and in the water will probably be about $23k..I'll have 1200 fresh horsepower, and a hull with about 400 hours on it, beautiful interior...what will another $200-$400K get me that I don't already have?
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Absolutely right on.
I feel the same way. If I decide in the future I want something different in my boat, I'll just have it updated. New paint, bigger engines, etc...those are all far cheaper than buying a new boat and I may be even happier. |
Originally Posted by tjhuyser
(Post 3860965)
Reading these comments, and going through the link(s, you know how that whole surfing thing goes)..I can't agree more..I would NEVER be able to afford a boat that costs half as much as my house, let alone the same or more!! I have a 88 35se that I picked up for $18k with a real nice aluminum trailer, twin 454's with blowers..one has one season on a complete rebuild, bored 30 over forged everything, the other motor was in pieces...I'll have about $3000-$3500 making that motor match. total done and in the water will probably be about $23k..I'll have 1200 fresh horsepower, and a hull with about 400 hours on it, beautiful interior...what will another $200-$400K get me that I don't already have?
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