Where in the world is Philippe's 2005 31???!!
 

Ordered on September 18th 2004 , with a deposit and contract, delivery date of the 1st week of the year(2005).Ordered a 2005 Sonic 31 with 525s , ITS XR drives.2 weeks later his trade boat arrives at Hollywood facility, and an additional deposit check soon followed. He was at the Hollywood location three weeks ago and was shown "his" boat, almost completed, paint,engines drives and soft goods installed. He was told the closing would be in 2 weeks. Last week upon his arrival at the Hollywood location to find out what day the closing was he was shown a different boat with no motors drives or paint. Imagine that!!! He has been more than patient , not once getting concerned even though his boat was already over 2 months late, lets see Sept Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb and now March, my math has that at 6 months !! Am I dumb or is that a long time ? He was told late last week that the boat was in paint . Guess what, as of tonight it was not even in paint , nor have the engines or drives arrived yet. Is this a movie or a lawsuit in the making? I guess its the same as the 38 ordered in August that "Joe" was touching in Hollywood as he was on the phone with the man who ordered it. When the buyer went to Hollywood he was informed that the boat was in Stuart. "Joes " answer was that he was confused and it was the buyers trade boat he was talking about " touching". Thats funny because when he called "Joe" the buyer was onboard his"trade boat". :evilb: :eek: :mad: :cool: :chick: :drink: :evilb: "Nothing but the facts Sir, just the facts"!!

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Havn't you anything better to do than upset those people all ready in distress :mad: :mad: :mad:

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why dont you just go and ask them where the boat is at,, or better yet post where it is at if you know how about some pictures to back up what you post as well.

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Well well wel , not looking to upset anyone especially "my " customers , who are upset and cant get a straight answer or there boats/money for that matter. do you know where his boat went? thats what the post is about.The thinking is that it went somewhere , or it just disapeared. oh it never existed and he never was told it was his boat that he would close on in 2 weeks.as usual the check is in the mail, just ask captwk . not trying to be smart or crass in any way but if you dislike my posts why do you read and respond to most of them, dont you have anything better to do? What in your mind is a resonable time for a boat to be delivered late? If it was your boat you would be very upset, you would be on the phone with anyone you had a number for that you felt may be able to help you in any way , wouldnt you? I am getting the calls as is fishtails.excuse the spelling but caveat emptor comes to mind. would you rather just be in the dark or have a bit of knowledge. Maybe if your boat was at "National Marine" and someone posted what was going on you would have still left your boat there . Then there is that amendment thing something to the effect of free speach as long as all others agree with you

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I bet youd like to see the contract thats in my hands , wouldnt you?! they have been asked and the answer is that it wasnt his boat!!!! Lets see 55K and the mans trade at 65k = 120k, so the outstanding balance is??? makes logical sense that a company in trouble would take a full clip over what the balance is. Who cares about the customer, who has worked hard to have his boat built , screw delivery dates. screw anyones word or contract for that matter.Ask MMaverick he can back up what I have said , nothing getting done except pissing off great customers who want a great product but no one wants to give to them, even though they have paid.

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Sounds just like another S. Florida small volume boat builder :( What's up with this industry anyway? I will never buy new again, that's for sure.

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Hey Steve nothing better to do than surf OSO. I agree with you the only way I would buy another new boat would be one that is built already and Is in the hands of a dealer that is willing to deal. Although with the price of new boats and how fast they DEPRECIATE I don't think I will ever buy a new boat anyways.

I have had 2 uneasy new purchase's and I can't beleive that there are people that will defend ANY BUILDER treating their customers as they do.

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Gerry...I know people that have bought new and their experiences are nothing less than horrifying. It makes our
purchases seem like an award winnng experience. Gotta wonder about some of these S. FL builders.

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Did you know that Rick bought a 42 Sonic and it caught fire over the winter in his storage unit. The poor guy never got a chance to use the 42. Rick was thinking of buying a new 42 Sonic, I think all these negetive post are going too make his decsion very difficult.

Talked to him they other day and we both agreed that there are problems with just about every builder out there and either way it's going to be a CRAP SHOOT.

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There are a few good Boat co. out there, I have had a few new building experiences, they both ran over in time, but my Nortech for quality and customer service was great, and I just ordered another. Good luck to you. Jeff

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I signed a contract with Richard and Joe on January 12, 2005 for a 31ss to be delivered by the end of March 05. As of today my boat is not even been delivered to Hollywood yet. After three trips from South Carolina to Florida Sonics got my deposit and I do not have a boat. Joe and Ann and everyone at the Hoolywood plant have been very nice but I still do not have a boat. If anyone can tell me what is going on down in South Florida I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Marshall

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Marshall,
Give me a call, I would like to talk with you regarding your expierence w/ Sonic. We have a boat on order too.

847-874-2035
Rick

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ok why don't you people that don't have a boat on order check out other boats.like pantera cig fountain outerlimits and ask them for a custom boat built to your specs.i'm sure you will find the same with most of them.im talking built for you not off the floor or from a dealer.brian i'm really surprized at you. i liked you as my salesman.but to pull this sh-t that you have no controll over and you can't help your customers as you are no longer employeed by sonic.
paul

Re: Where in the world is Philippe's 2005 31???!!
 

my motto buy used......

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It's mine too!! One new boat buying experience is enough in my lifetime!

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No Control & RV - I took delivery of a 31SS in October. Call me for info. 727-450-1160 x46 or 727-741-8150

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I have three Freshwater used Sonic's. 2002 31, 2003 38 and a 2002 45. 31 and 38 show as new. I'll make someone a good deal. [email protected]

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I'll trade you a 1998 47SC Fountain for one of those. Call me

Re: Where in the world is Philippe's 2005 31???!!
 

Steve - something about this 42 sounds a bit familiar.....

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Loan Ranger,
You can call me at 803-513-0080. I would like to hear your comments.
Marshall Hartmann

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Paul to be employed you have to be paid! Captbkoch was simply trying to get information to you all , as Sonic was not offering any or communicating with anyone. You have done the smartest thing and that is to stay on top of them. A contract is a contract and its terms are its terms.Dont tell the buyer he can have his boat on a certain day and not deliver it within 4 and a half months of that date!

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Mr.paul ,forgive me as I am new to this,however my broker and freind saw your boat yesterday Brian is an honest person and Sean who you all say bad things about appears to have been right all along and is willng to go to court with me as a witness. Not bad for someone that bought lunch and dinner for me and used his sea tow to pull me in with noting in return.

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Hey Brian It still appears my boat is the mystery boat that seems to get lost in translation. oh I ment to say that was completion.Good luck in Ny ,I spoke to Sean And will meet him tomorow . Ps this internet is fun!

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Awful lot of one post wonders.

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As I said, I am new to oso however not new to boats! Maybe you would like to call the folks at Sonic(first derivative) take the money and lie or whatever they are calling themselves. By the way sonic 28 If you actually bought you motors in january or febuary its news to merc and sonic. Be a man and accept the fact you made a bad decission and we can help each other and stop the bleeding and Bs. you will be one of many in litigation with them.I personally am not walking away from over 120k!

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oh boy
you got my attention.i did purchase the motors and have themthey were purchased thru a dealer in newengland.so please get your sh-t together before attacking.who are you lets have your name.instead of all this bullsh-t.again i'll support sonic as i own one and have one almost done.again if you do have a boat on order go to stuart and touch it.and speak to them direct.this crap is between you and sonic.the the forum board.its suppose to be for quetions about the boats.not your personal problems.

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Nothing personal I in fact have a boat on order for several months. the big question is why buy your motors in New england instead of at OEM pricing ?Second thoughts are usually good thoughts. Ps my 2000 42 W/ 575S is for sale.By the way this is about boats.

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Any advice on how to fix a bilge pump? just following your suggestion!

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All this talk and we left out the real ? when are you going to take delivery of your 35? june? july maybe? not August!! gets cold in september. Better make it an08. cant stand the heat maybe open you should open your eyes you have my number.

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This is abhorrent!

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Its worse! still no motors no contact and from the horses mouth there looking fof a buyer for the company.I suggest anyone with a deposit contact a lawyer as many of us have!also word has it a certain headhoncho in stuart may be packing up and moving on.stay tuned!

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another two weeks has past and still no word on my 525s or a phone call for that matter.Mark my words ( legal thriller)