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Originally Posted by Viperfitness1
(Post 2930090)
she can convince me to do a lot of things!! i hope Colin wasnt offended from what he saw?!?
And i don't think Collin would be offended,,,he had a Aero-Tek that he raced so there is no way he would be offended by a women. Unless he seen u naked on the hatch .HEHE:grinser010: |
Where Is Everyone Is It Winter Already? Jason You Were In Buncombe Creek All Day Sat, We Were At North Island On The Pontoon.
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Did you hear me in the Motion come up Buncombe on Sunday Morning?
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Originally Posted by johnnyboatman
(Post 2934079)
Where Is Everyone Is It Winter Already? Jason You Were In Buncombe Creek All Day Sat, We Were At North Island On The Pontoon.
I don't think I will be back in the water before Labor Day. |
Oh come on is it that bad? There were actually a few hot rods around Cedar Creek sat. not as many as I would like however.
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jason i heard two souped up 4.3l chevys running, no really we left early had a birthday party to attend sunday afternoon. how did it run im ready to hang the sticks open on it.
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andy hows the apache runnin.
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matt hows life treating you.
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Originally Posted by johnnyboatman
(Post 2934466)
jason i heard two souped up 4.3l chevys running, no really we left early had a birthday party to attend sunday afternoon. how did it run im ready to hang the sticks open on it.
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Originally Posted by OkieTunnel
(Post 2934598)
Sending it back to Missouri to move the motors backward. Rigged wrong originally. CG is off. Wish I knew it while Brad still had it up there. Hopefully will only take a couple three weeks.
What is the issue? Transom lift? That seems drastic with no more testing than you have done. |
Originally Posted by johnnyboatman
(Post 2934469)
matt hows life treating you.
Hows the business? |
jason why would you do that, they ran it several years like that at 140plus i think if it would had needed that then they have already done that, remember just because it works on some hulls it may hurt yours. what seems to be the prob, quit listening to everyone and put it in the water and learn the boat then over the winter if it needs it then move them back, why do you think they need to be moved?
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matt we are just getn by, picken up slowly. those core guys never got with me.
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jason try some new props some 4 your motion, not someone elses and remember its going to get loose to be fast.
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Originally Posted by johnnyboatman
(Post 2934626)
jason why would you do that, they ran it several years like that at 140plus i think if it would had needed that then they have already done that, remember just because it works on some hulls it may hurt yours. what seems to be the prob, quit listening to everyone and put it in the water and learn the boat then over the winter if it needs it then move them back, why do you think they need to be moved?
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Originally Posted by shark42
(Post 2934827)
We tried some 5 blades that helped but I was in the boat and trust me, they need to be moved.
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Have You Guys Ever Wrenched On A Boat To Kno The Effects Of Moving The Center Of Grav? Can Tou Tell Thats Where They Originally Should Be, Why Would They Build It Like That, And Now You Need Them Moved Back? not saying you dont know but it ran well before, there are things you can do to props to change the way it handles, i just cant see all that work for nothing.
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Nothing a few sandbags can't take care of:party-smiley-004:
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Originally Posted by johnnyboatman
(Post 2934838)
Have You Guys Ever Wrenched On A Boat To Kno The Effects Of Moving The Center Of Grav? Can Tou Tell Thats Where They Originally Should Be, Why Would They Build It Like That, And Now You Need Them Moved Back? not saying you dont know but it ran well before, there are things you can do to props to change the way it handles, i just cant see all that work for nothing.
Jason, tell us whats going on. If nothing else, we would like to arm chair engineer this thing with you. |
Originally Posted by TxHawk
(Post 2934915)
I am with you. I have been involved with the setup of more than a few boats. This seems drastic after limited testing.
Jason, tell us whats going on. If nothing else, we would like to arm chair engineer this thing with you. Ive had no less than Brad Schoenwald in the boat who said set-up was screwed..."let Larry set it up". This aint my 1st rodeo guys. I wasn't aware of the set-up till I ran the boat but instantly knew it wasn't right. They either were planning on putting 2800-3000 HP in this boat or had a "bright idea" or didn't know what they were doing when they placed these motors. |
Originally Posted by OkieTunnel
(Post 2934946)
Whats going on is there are multiple 35 motions which have been built with good power and sixes. They all run an 18-22inch shaft. These boats run flat and are very fast. My boat was rigged by someone in Florida who had never rigged one of these boats. My shaft is over 34 inches long. (Don't pull that out of context:eek:) This pushes the weight way too far forward. Boatstarts to climb out of the water but cant hold the bow which falls then it happens all over again probably once a second with lots of magnatude at 100. Larry Goldman has rigged about 50% of the 35 Motions. He has won multiple world championships in the 35 motion. His boats are fast and run flat. When I asked about this boat he instantly said he knew the boat. He said they mounted the motors way too damn far forward. Move them back, 18-22 inch shaft, fast flat boat, done deal.
Ive had no less than Brad Schoenwald in the boat who said set-up was screwed..."let Larry set it up". This aint my 1st rodeo guys. I wasn't aware of the set-up till I ran the boat but instantly knew it wasn't right. They either were planning on putting 2800-3000 HP in this boat or had a "bright idea" or didn't know what they were doing when they placed these motors. Got ya. What is that going to do to your drive shaft angle? |
OkieTunnel, I can think of several ways to change the CG besides moving the motors. That is at least twenty- thirty grand if you have it done and done right....What about starting by moving the batteries to the transom and sand bagging the transom with enough wt. to get it flat. The next concern will be getting on plane w/enough X dimension to get the props out where they belong....Do you have a ballast tank?
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What do the batteries weigh....80# each ? X2= 160 x 6ft= a lever arm of 960# and that's just for openers.
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Originally Posted by CcanDo
(Post 2935270)
OkieTunnel, I can think of several ways to change the CG besides moving the motors. That is at least twenty- thirty grand if you have it done and done right....What about starting by moving the batteries to the transom and sand bagging the transom with enough wt. to get it flat. The next concern will be getting on plane w/enough X dimension to get the props out where they belong....Do you have a ballast tank?
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hope you get it worked out okie... lets see the fountain motors johnny?? heres a pic i took before we cleaned them
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Okie- I look foward to seeing you get it worked out.
At least you have a good hull and know what needs to be done. I have been in a few that were lost causes. Example, the 34 DCB that porpoised so bad that it unloaded the drives. You could drive through the porpoise in the right conditions. This thing porpoised so bad trying to get over 100 that it would unload and eventually break the drives!!! Then there this is U l t r a, The only Ultra I have been in would try to make a turn when you got out of the throttle. It is a shame what all is out there that unknowing buyers will wind up with. Get that Motion worked out and take me for a ride! |
Originally Posted by TxHawk
(Post 2935410)
Okie- I look foward to seeing you get it worked out.
At least you have a good hull and know what needs to be done. I have been in a few that were lost causes. Example, the 34 DCB that porpoised so bad that it unloaded the drives. You could drive through the porpoise in the right conditions. This thing porpoised so bad trying to get over 100 that it would unload and eventually break the drives!!! Then there this is U l t r a, The only Ultra I have been in would try to make a turn when you got out of the throttle. It is a shame what all is out there that unknowing buyers will wind up with. Get that Motion worked out and take me for a ride! |
Originally Posted by OkieTunnel
(Post 2935424)
Was that the DCB that kept breaking the tunnel tab off? The 34 is a POS! The 32 is a damn nice boat. 35 Motions are one of the best handling cats made if rigged appropriately. Mine soon will be.
Haha, the 34 that kept breaking the tunnel tab was the replacement that had 6's. |
Originally Posted by TxHawk
(Post 2935432)
Haha, the 34 that kept breaking the tunnel tab was the replacement that had 6's.
Motion is headed to Missouri on Tuesday. Hopefully motor move wont take too long. Even though it is hopping, I can say it accelerates like a raped ape! |
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Originally Posted by OkieTunnel
(Post 2936215)
He should have learned the first time! I went to DCB and talked to Dave himself. He was very guarded discussing the 34. I looked at 1 with 1000's, and #6's. Could that have been the second boat? BTW, the 32's he had in the shop were knocked out! The 34 was a bad design but he does know how to build a boat. I toured Eliminator the next day and have to say there fit and finish, although very good, was not as good as DCB.
Motion is headed to Missouri on Tuesday. Hopefully motor move wont take too long. Even though it is hopping, I can say it accelerates like a raped ape! I didnt want to bring up Eliminator in my post but since you did... I was given a 30 Eliminator with unlimited fuel and the keys to break in a new set of motors. Lets just say I spend 30 minutes in it and told the customer he could break it in! |
Originally Posted by Viperfitness1
(Post 2935370)
hope you get it worked out okie... lets see the fountain motors johnny?? heres a pic i took before we cleaned them
Sweet, so how fast does she run now? |
Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
(Post 2936543)
Sweet, so how fast does she run now?
come on tex, thats like asking a cougar her age. i will say this... faster than johnnys fountain bllaaaaahhhhahhah! fukin sweet motors johnny! you going to ozarks? |
Originally Posted by Viperfitness1
(Post 2936588)
67 mph
Tex, How fast is yours!?:evilb: |
no to ozarks but when is it? andy your truck must be running good.:party-smiley-004:
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andy your truck must be running good.:party-smiley-004:[/QUOTE]
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Hey guys thought I would check in and say hello. I met OkieTunnel today out on the lake and he mentioned this forum. I haven`t been on OSO in a while but maybe I will check more often now.
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I will be heading down for Labor day weekend. First time to Texoma. Where are some good hang out spots
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