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Slimzim 01-17-2009 10:18 AM

2005 Sunsation for sale - Cash Back
 
I am selling my 2005 32' Sunsation w/ tri-axle trailer. Just had a brand new baby girl....and changed jobs. This boat is one of a kind awesome, but I won't be using it enough to justify keeping it. I am offering some cash back to the buyer. Use the $$ for a down payment, to make the first several payments, or whatever else you want. Boat and Trailer w/ upgrades books for well over $150,000. I am asking only $117,500. Cash back amount based upon final negotiated price. I work with several banks and can help with financing if you need, and have average credit or better. 812.499.9318. John.

Mentalpause 01-18-2009 11:13 AM

Why don't you just post what you want instead of screwing around with this cash back thing. Makes no sense.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-18-2009 12:53 PM

Slim

You are advertising bank fraud so you may want to reconsider your sales technique. It sounds like a nice boat but you are leaving out all important details like power, warranty?, closed deck or MCOB. The next step is you should call a marine lender and find out what the current loan value is on the boat so you can be prepared when a buyer calls and has 10K to put down and plans on financing the rest (you can save them time by letting them know the gap between your asking price and the amount the bank may lend is probably significantly more than the 10K the buyer wants to put down).

Good luck in your sale and congratulations on the new job/ baby.

Slimzim 01-18-2009 01:15 PM

Mentalpause, thanks for your note. I want to sell my boat for $117,500. The cash back option is just an added incentive. I am willing to negotiate this into the deal if that's what it takes to get it done. I also work with several banks and would be glad to assist a non-cash buyer with any financing needs. Please spread the word if you know of someone in the market. 812.499.9318. Owner- John Z.

Slimzim 01-18-2009 01:51 PM

I started my banking career as a consumer lender, and have financed many boat/car deals done with cash back. As long as a loan customer is up front about the purchase price, source of down payment and source of income to repay the loan, the system works. Then the bank determines if the loan-to-value is acceptable, etc. Heck, whoever buys my boat may walk away with cash in their pocket to tag the boat, or buy gas or to pay off a credit card. It doesn't necessarily have to go toward a down payment. For serious inquiries on my 32' Sunsation, call me or provide your email address. I'll be glad to visit.

Mentalpause 01-18-2009 06:59 PM

As Jupiter said, some additional info would be helpful, like options and power. Plus pictures would be good.

Jupiter Sunsation 01-19-2009 07:12 AM

Here was a great ebay ad with lots of pictures and descriptions: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

Boostable 01-19-2009 08:17 AM

Didn't get the 117... decent deal at 72.

Slimzim 01-19-2009 09:52 AM

Check out the footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDh-QPld1c4

Details:
2005 32' Innovator, Twin 496 HO Mags, warranty, tri-axe trailer, custom paint, sound, IMCO hydraulics, Bravo 1's, 200 hours, boat has never seen saltwater. I have the boat listed with a friend in MO at lake of ozarks, but would like to sell it myself. I can pass along savings if I sell the boat myself. Asking $117,500. Cash back negotiable. I am willing to pay reasonable transportation costs as well.
MOTIVATED SELLER. CONTACT: John 812.499.9318

ImaPoser 01-19-2009 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Boostable (Post 2780872)
Didn't get the 117... decent deal at 72.

Decent deal? I'll have to look at that more once I get out of work, but I would think that is a great deal on a 32.:eek:

jeff1000man 01-19-2009 12:03 PM

There is a 32' down here with vortechs that runs 100 for 40K if you get it before the bank does. It's a 99 though.

ImaPoser 01-19-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2781042)
It's a 99 though.

Not familiar with the history of sunsation. Why the negative tone towards a 99?

jeff1000man 01-19-2009 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ImaPoser (Post 2781119)
Not familiar with the history of sunsation. Why the negative tone towards a 99?

Just that it was an older boat. It is a nice rig though.

KN 01-19-2009 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2781042)
There is a 32' down here with vortechs that runs 100 for 40K if you get it before the bank does. It's a 99 though.


Any more info on this boat?

ImaPoser 01-19-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by KN (Post 2781171)
Any more info on this boat?


yeah, what he said. That's in my screw waiting, buy this year budget. :food-smiley-007:

chevyzq8 02-04-2009 12:44 PM

If it's the boat pictued in the video Raymonds at LOTO has this boat listed, check their website for the photos.

Slimzim 02-04-2009 03:46 PM

That's the one....

chevyzq8 02-05-2009 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2780849)
Here was a great ebay ad with lots of pictures and descriptions: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

I should be watching ebay closer for some steals :D I could use a repo'd fix'r up!

Knot 4 Me 02-06-2009 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by chevyzq8 (Post 2794122)
I should be watching ebay closer for some steals :D I could use a repo'd fix'r up!

Then I will buy your current fix'r upper! :evilb: :drink:

Jupiter Sunsation 02-07-2009 09:19 PM

http://yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=20235

This could be a great deal for someone......

05 32 killer paint, 260 hours asking 50K

Mentalpause 02-08-2009 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2795375)
http://yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=20235

This could be a great deal for someone......

05 32 killer paint, 260 hours asking 50K

Sweet deal, especially if it is clean.

Mentalpause 02-08-2009 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by chevyzq8 (Post 2792883)
If it's the boat pictued in the video Raymonds at LOTO has this boat listed, check their website for the photos.

Want to bet if Charlene can turn it?:evilb::eek:

rlj676 02-08-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2795375)
http://yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=20235

This could be a great deal for someone......

05 32 killer paint, 260 hours asking 50K

I'm trying my hardest, and those guys there can't verify "if it's there", or return a call (in a timely manner).....etc.:mad:

It hadn't even been there for a monday yet I think (when they check bids with banks) when I called, and the first clown says it's sold. At this point it was only on boattrader, not even their site. It later shows up on their site, and I call again, and a different guy says, "yeah it's available, but maybe in transit, let me get back to you." Never heard back and can't get anyone to answer but the operator, who doesn't know anything and puts you through to these brokers.

I'm thinking someone there has a buddy who wants it and they are screwing the bank and giving everyone else a runaround.:party-smiley-004:

Jupiter Sunsation 02-08-2009 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 2795638)
I'm trying my hardest, and those guys there can't verify "if it's there", or return a call (in a timely manner).....etc.:mad:

It hadn't even been there for a monday yet I think (when they check bids with banks) when I called, and the first clown says it's sold. At this point it was only on boattrader, not even their site. It later shows up on their site, and I call again, and a different guy says, "yeah it's available, but maybe in transit, let me get back to you." Never heard back and can't get anyone to answer but the operator, who doesn't know anything and puts you through to these brokers.

I'm thinking someone there has a buddy who wants it and they are screwing the bank and giving everyone else a runaround.:party-smiley-004:

It is not you or even the boat.........the place is jammed with inventory with repo trucks hauling stuff in hourly! The "sales" reps sit on a long hallway with doors on both sides and there are probably 12-15 guys trying to move these boats all day long. The receptionist can barely answer the phone. Literally they have to go look on the lot to see if it is still there since someone across the hall might have sold it/shipped it out.

Call Ed Cozzi here on OSO. He is 10 minutes from the place and has been there many times. He might have a contact there for you and he can survey the boat if you are serious. I saw the boat in the water about 8 months back going down the ICW in Lauderdale. Sunsations are still rare sightings in S. FL so this boat definitely caught my eye. The paint is nice.

rlj676 02-08-2009 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2795702)
It is not you or even the boat.........the place is jammed with inventory with repo trucks hauling stuff in hourly! The "sales" reps sit on a long hallway with doors on both sides and there are probably 12-15 guys trying to move these boats all day long. The receptionist can barely answer the phone. Literally they have to go look on the lot to see if it is still there since someone across the hall might have sold it/shipped it out.

Call Ed Cozzi here on OSO. He is 10 minutes from the place and has been there many times. He might have a contact there for you and he can survey the boat if you are serious. I saw the boat in the water about 8 months back going down the ICW in Lauderdale. Sunsations are still rare sightings in S. FL so this boat definitely caught my eye. The paint is nice.


Thanks again. It's funny how we have two conversations going on two boards on this.:drink:

I was hoping to get Ed to survey it if I got that far.

I heard back from someone today actually, so it does appear they are just swamped with calls. The boat has a few issues, but nothing major.

I wouldn't expect any issues on a 6.2 with 270 hrs, unless 265 of them were at WOT correct? These things should be good for well over 500 hours right? I believe that is what you have in yours?

Overall, there are some other boats I'd be more interested in (Cig Mystique/Bullets, AT 32's that are bigger "for the size") but if I get the right deal this might be the boat for me. It definitely has some of my favorite paint from pre-SS boats.

Oh, sorry for the hijack, I just don't want to post a new thread pointing it out and getting "too much interest" in the boat.;)

Jupiter Sunsation 02-08-2009 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 2795729)
I wouldn't expect any issues on a 6.2 with 270 hrs, unless 265 of them were at WOT correct? These things should be good for well over 500 hours right? I believe that is what you have in yours?

Mine does have 6.2's but at 220 hours both motors had issues but were covered under Mercury's extended warranty (with a little arm twisting). They argued that they ingested water through the exhaust due to low exhaust height angle. But they approved the angle/design originally. Boat now has 270 hours +/- and runs fine with $4500 in new exhaust.

Knowing what I know now if the motors have an issue out of warranty I would just buy a set of used 496 HO's and be done with it. They are a lot more common on the used market and a used pair would still be cheaper than a pair of new 6.2s. The 6.2s run that boat fine and it jumps up on plane nicely. Keep in mind the 6.2's are 10 HP less than the old 454 Mags that are significantly heavier.

Here is a Hot Boat article on a 32 with 6.2s (my actual boat): http://sunsationboats.com/articles/hotboat0304.pdf

rlj676 02-08-2009 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2795737)
Mine does have 6.2's but at 220 hours both motors had issues but were covered under Mercury's extended warranty (with a little arm twisting). They argued that they ingested water through the exhaust due to low exhaust height angle. But they approved the angle/design originally. Boat now has 270 hours +/- and runs fine with $4500 in new exhaust.

Knowing what I know now if the motors have an issue out of warranty I would just buy a set of used 496 HO's and be done with it. They are a lot more common on the used market and a used pair would still be cheaper than a pair of new 6.2s. The 6.2s run that boat fine and it jumps up on plane nicely. Keep in mind the 6.2's are 10 HP less than the old 454 Mags that are significantly heavier.

Here is a Hot Boat article on a 32 with 6.2s (my actual boat): http://sunsationboats.com/articles/hotboat0304.pdf

Actually, I've thought exactly that. If I can buy it right and the motors turn into just expensive anchors, I could upgrade to HO's fairly easily and still be OK.

Thanks


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