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1fastboat 11-25-2009 10:43 AM

32 Dominator with 5.7 350'S???
 
so we are looking at a 32 Dominator with twin 5.7's in it with bravo 1 outdrives we were woundring what kind of speed we would be looking at with that. And has anyone herd of the 5.7's in this boat?

soonenough 11-25-2009 12:17 PM

67-68mph.

Knot 4 Me 11-25-2009 01:07 PM

This the boat you are looking at?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o26159-en.html

sunsation96 11-25-2009 02:49 PM

The ad for that boat gives the best speed it has ran 68.7 GPS speed very nice boat from what I have heard!

Knot 4 Me 11-30-2009 08:56 AM

68.7 MPH GPS with 260 HP 5.7 EFI's? Had to of had a jockey driving it on fumes with a tailwind downstream in 60 degree weather. :D Don't expect that kind of top end under normal fuel/gear/passenger load and conditions.

1fastboat 11-30-2009 03:36 PM

we took for a test drive and hit 66 under wot for about two sec. then he let off it will do 68 mph we had four people and over half a tank of gas into the wind.

Knot 4 Me 12-01-2009 10:56 AM

Wow. Must be one strong set of motors. You have your own handheld GPS to verify? 2000 Dominator with 385 HP 454 MAG's was a consistant, everyday 74 - 76 MPH boat with labbed 28's on it. I'm impressed...

1fastboat 12-02-2009 10:47 AM

yeah we had our own gps the motors do seem to run strong i was impressed as well.

Knot 4 Me 12-02-2009 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastboat (Post 2999467)
yeah we had our own gps the motors do seem to run strong i was impressed as well.

Boat clean? Running that strong I would not be afraid of the 5.7's then if the price is right.

Jupiter Sunsation 12-02-2009 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2998935)
Wow. Must be one strong set of motors. You have your own handheld GPS to verify? 2000 Dominator with 385 HP 454 MAG's was a consistant, everyday 74 - 76 MPH boat with labbed 28's on it. I'm impressed...

That is about right... My 32 w/ 6.2's (320 HP) make the boat run a best of 73 spinning 23's (GPS, light on fuel). The small blocks are much lighter than the big blocks. Those 5.7's are rated at 300 hp.

KN 12-02-2009 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2999802)
That is about right... My 32 w/ 6.2's (320 HP) make the boat run a best of 73 spinning 23's (GPS, light on fuel). The small blocks are much lighter than the big blocks. Those 5.7's are rated at 300 hp.

Those engine's are not the 350 mags with 300 HP they are only rated at 260 HP.

Knot 4 Me 12-03-2009 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2999802)
That is about right... My 32 w/ 6.2's (320 HP) make the boat run a best of 73 spinning 23's (GPS, light on fuel). The small blocks are much lighter than the big blocks. Those 5.7's are rated at 300 hp.

The flame arrestor covers say 5.7 EFI. Those are the 260 HP motors. The 350 MAG MPI's where 300 HP. That is why I questioned the speeds. I had a 1999 23' runabout with a 5.7EFI in it and it was a strong motor. In fact, a buddy had the same boat only with the 5.7L which was 250 HP (2 bbl. carb) and I would outrun him by 2 MPH. 10 HP should not have made that much difference. I would have thought a 32 Dominator with twin 5.7EFI's would have been a mid 60's boat. Learn something new every day!! Just shows how efficient that pad bottom hull is with the lighter weight small blocks in it.

Mentalpause 12-03-2009 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2999802)
That is about right... My 32 w/ 6.2's (320 HP) make the boat run a best of 73 spinning 23's (GPS, light on fuel). The small blocks are much lighter than the big blocks. Those 5.7's are rated at 300 hp.

That's the salt!:drink: Standard load of gear, fresh water LOTO at 660 ft above sea level and you are high 60s on your best day, maybe tickle 70 on the right day in Chevy's 6.2s. They do run great though, and are really fuel efficient compared to the big blocks.

The 454 mags were tested at 80+ mph in Fla in PB magazine in the old dominators. My engines would run 75-76 all day long at LOTO. Hit 78 on one fall day when all the stars aligned. But never saw 80 regardless of conditions or load. But 660 feet and lighter water scrapes a few mph.

Potomac Fever 12-04-2009 07:26 AM

so when you gonna pull the trigger? was the boat real nice? seems a good deal for the $$ that speed w/smallblocks in a 32'sounds pretty good to me

Jupiter Sunsation 12-06-2009 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2999972)
The flame arrestor covers say 5.7 EFI. Those are the 260 HP motors. The 350 MAG MPI's where 300 HP. That is why I questioned the speeds. I had a 1999 23' runabout with a 5.7EFI in it and it was a strong motor. In fact, a buddy had the same boat only with the 5.7L which was 250 HP (2 bbl. carb) and I would outrun him by 2 MPH. 10 HP should not have made that much difference. I would have thought a 32 Dominator with twin 5.7EFI's would have been a mid 60's boat. Learn something new every day!! Just shows how efficient that pad bottom hull is with the lighter weight small blocks in it.

My mistake on the HP..... That is nice performance for 520 combined hp though.

The boat looks great for 45K, Shogren wants 35K more for a boat with no power that is 3 years newer. This guy's boat should be "sold." Too many people are hung up on the small power but it is turn key boating at a price where you could replace the power with big blocks and not be buried in the boat! My sales pitch would be buy it, run it until it blows up and then build your dream power for the boat! In the meantime you are out on the water.....

How many people on here have boats in pieces that haven't seen water in years (and possibly more years to pass) building their "dream boat" only to sell it for 1/2 or less of what they have in it!

Potomac Fever 12-07-2009 06:48 AM

Thanks for your imput, boat looks nice in the pics

Bo-G13 12-07-2009 07:44 PM

Small blox are a hard sell!!! Weight makes up for the short HP compared to the 7.4's and 454's but definately don't have the same sound!!! :drink:

1fastboat 12-08-2009 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Bo-G13 (Post 3002407)
Small blox are a hard sell!!! Weight makes up for the short HP compared to the 7.4's and 454's but definately don't have the same sound!!! :drink:

i disagree the boat sounded really good for 350's i dont think 454's sound much better i really dont 454's in that boat are really worth it i have herd guys with 454's only getting 72 mph out of them. i dont think the power to weight ratio is much better. if you want to go fast which i dont really care too much about, you need to get atleast 496 mags.

Potomac Fever 12-08-2009 06:52 AM

What was your overall feel of the boat can you pm me with your assesment I'm like 8 hours away and it would be nice to hear what another memmber thought of this boat

sunsation96 12-08-2009 07:45 AM

Question what was the RPM range that you seen at a cruise speed? Not top end but just a cruise speed!

sunsation96 12-08-2009 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3000273)
That's the salt!:drink: Standard load of gear, fresh water LOTO at 660 ft above sea level and you are high 60s on your best day, maybe tickle 70 on the right day in Chevy's 6.2s. They do run great though, and are really fuel efficient compared to the big blocks.

The 454 mags were tested at 80+ mph in Fla in PB magazine in the old dominators. My engines would run 75-76 all day long at LOTO. Hit 78 on one fall day when all the stars aligned. But never saw 80 regardless of conditions or load. But 660 feet and lighter water scrapes a few mph.

Mentalpause I have a question for you? You stated that the small blocks will have an increased MPG. I have only had a big block 502 in my Aggressor and my wife and I just cruise around 35-45 and the fuel was not that bad. Will there be a huge difference if I got a 32' with 454/496? vs the small block 32' I have found a few small block 32' but nervous about the engine size and the resale seems very hard wanted to know you thoughts seeing that you know a bit more than I do. I have asked others and like to hear everyone's opinion! Thanks!

Knot 4 Me 12-08-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3002671)
Mentalpause I have a question for you? You stated that the small blocks will have an increased MPG. I have only had a big block 502 in my Aggressor and my wife and I just cruise around 35-45 and the fuel was not that bad. Will there be a huge difference if I got a 32' with 454/496? vs the small block 32' I have found a few small block 32' but nervous about the engine size and the resale seems very hard wanted to know you thoughts seeing that you know a bit more than I do. I have asked others and like to hear everyone's opinion! Thanks!

Depends what small blocks the boat has and what the RPM is at your normal cruise speed. If those 260 HP 5.7 EFI's are turning a bunch of RPM at cruise they may not be any more efficient (maybe even less efficient) than a pair of 496's. The 6.2's have shown to be a great combination of efficiency and performance and resale should be good on that combination. It is when you get to the 350 MAGs and the 5.7 EFI's and 5.7L's that you see people passing up boats they would otherwise buy if they had the bigger motors.

Mentalpause 12-08-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastboat (Post 3002534)
i disagree the boat sounded really good for 350's i dont think 454's sound much better i really dont 454's in that boat are really worth it i have herd guys with 454's only getting 72 mph out of them. i dont think the power to weight ratio is much better. if you want to go fast which i dont really care too much about, you need to get atleast 496 mags.

When you say 454's, which HP version are you referring to? The 454 mags (385HP) will run about the same as the 496s (375 HP version). Both will run well better than 72.

Mentalpause 12-08-2009 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by sunsation96 (Post 3002671)
Mentalpause I have a question for you? You stated that the small blocks will have an increased MPG. I have only had a big block 502 in my Aggressor and my wife and I just cruise around 35-45 and the fuel was not that bad. Will there be a huge difference if I got a 32' with 454/496? vs the small block 32' I have found a few small block 32' but nervous about the engine size and the resale seems very hard wanted to know you thoughts seeing that you know a bit more than I do. I have asked others and like to hear everyone's opinion! Thanks!

I always cruised around 2700-2800 RPM with the 454 mags, which equated to right around 40 mph. The old dominator hull (non step) would get consistently 2.2 MPG at that cruise. That was the most efficient gas burn I could get with those engines. My bet is the 496s (375 hp) would be similar, but I don't know that for sure.

Matt's (Chevy) 6.2 dominator (same non step hull) would go through less gas than that at a 35 - 40 MPH cruise, but not sure exactly what his burn was. My guess is it might be .5 or so MPG better, maybe close to 3 MPG. Maybe he will read this and post.

1fastboat 12-09-2009 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3002886)
When you say 454's, which HP version are you referring to? The 454 mags (385HP) will run about the same as the 496s (375 HP version). Both will run well better than 72.

yeah i didnt mean the mag mototrs. i guess this guy was saying that he gets 2.4 mpg crusing at 45 mph not sure what rpm that puts it at though, but that makes it about 18 gallons per hour.

sunsation96 12-09-2009 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3002791)
Depends what small blocks the boat has and what the RPM is at your normal cruise speed. If those 260 HP 5.7 EFI's are turning a bunch of RPM at cruise they may not be any more efficient (maybe even less efficient) than a pair of 496's. The 6.2's have shown to be a great combination of efficiency and performance and resale should be good on that combination. It is when you get to the 350 MAGs and the 5.7 EFI's and 5.7L's that you see people passing up boats they would otherwise buy if they had the bigger motors.

Knot, that is what I was thinking they spin more RPM'S then the larger motors making them the same on fuel. Thanks! And others have said the same thing to me and seeing that I am in the drivers seat I am really taking my time with the next purchase seeing that I will have it for life HA HA. But no disrespect to the owner of this boat, the boat is really clean I have heard but the motors are killing the sale. For me I am nervous that I will go thru the same issue of not being able to sell it.


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 3002894)
I always cruised around 2700-2800 RPM with the 454 mags, which equated to right around 40 mph. The old dominator hull (non step) would get consistently 2.2 MPG at that cruise. That was the most efficient gas burn I could get with those engines. My bet is the 496s (375 hp) would be similar, but I don't know that for sure.

Matt's (Chevy) 6.2 dominator (same non step hull) would go through less gas than that at a 35 - 40 MPH cruise, but not sure exactly what his burn was. My guess is it might be .5 or so MPG better, maybe close to 3 MPG. Maybe he will read this and post.

Thanks for the reply just trying to do my home work and do the right thing. I don't really drive that fast at all once in a great while so even with some 496's I don't think they would be that bad heck I really thought my 502 was great on gas but I ran it around 2800 rpm and arond 35-40 mph. Thanks again!

1fastboat 12-10-2009 03:23 PM

the boat was very clean the motors shoudnt matter, it runs just as fast as a 454 boat (not the mag) maybe 2-4 mph less big deal, the 454 boats are in the 60k range not worth the extra money if you ask me. thats why we just bought it =)

sunsation96 12-10-2009 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastboat (Post 3003959)
the boat was very clean the motors shoudnt matter, it runs just as fast as a 454 boat (not the mag) maybe 2-4 mph less big deal, the 454 boats are in the 60k range not worth the extra money if you ask me. thats why we just bought it =)

Congrats on the purchase enjoy!

Mentalpause 12-10-2009 05:21 PM

Congrats - and enjoy the new ride.

Knot 4 Me 12-11-2009 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by 1fastboat (Post 3003959)
the boat was very clean the motors shoudnt matter, it runs just as fast as a 454 boat (not the mag) maybe 2-4 mph less big deal, the 454 boats are in the 60k range not worth the extra money if you ask me. thats why we just bought it =)

Congrats!

ZP'd 12-11-2009 08:31 AM

Congrats, I'm shocked it took that long for someone to snap it up at that price.

sunsation96 12-11-2009 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by ZP'd (Post 3004292)
Congrats, I'm shocked it took that long for someone to snap it up at that price.

I agree 100% loved the boat.

Bo-G13 12-14-2009 05:16 PM

Congrats on the new purchase...sure u will enjoy it!!!! :drink:
You get signed up on the Sunny forum yet???

Potomac Fever 12-15-2009 06:54 AM

congrats on the purchase, appears you got alot of boat for the money!! ENJOY and bring on the summer!!

1fastboat 12-15-2009 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bo-G13 (Post 3005803)
Congrats on the new purchase...sure u will enjoy it!!!! :drink:
You get signed up on the Sunny forum yet???

thanks guys and i am about to sign up on that forum. Do they post when the ralleys and fun run poker runs are?

Bo-G13 12-15-2009 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastboat (Post 3006447)
thanks guys and i am about to sign up on that forum. Do they post when the ralleys and fun run poker runs are?

Yes...a few of us do all 3 Wertz Warriors Runs and there are a few others that show up on there. We try to get together a few times every year and do a run either up the river or down toward Jacks on the weekends too!!!
We even throw in a party or 2 over the winter...need to get yourself a cooler!!! :eek:

Pesky Varmint 12-22-2009 07:43 AM

The good news on a boat like this is that the drives will probably last
forever.

Pesky Varmint


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