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bsboss 09-27-2010 09:13 PM

mid cabin vs closed bow
 
It sounds like a midcabin will be a little slower than a closed bow, is this true? Is it because of the wind?

THE 288 KID 09-28-2010 02:18 AM

I've heard this too, I think its cause there just heavier due to more materials? They seem to have a lot more imo

Bo-G13 09-28-2010 06:51 AM

I think its cuz anyone who buys an open bow (at least the few I boat with) are pansies and dont push the throttles far enought forward!!!! :evilb: :kiss:

eagledm44 09-28-2010 07:01 AM

I Have a mid cabin with a 525 whippled motor that runs 93. Do you think that I'm a pansie running that speed in a 28' long boat.

Knot 4 Me 09-28-2010 07:28 AM

Aero drag. Could be a difference in weight but I have not seen any numbers.

sunsation96 09-28-2010 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bo-G13 (Post 3218352)
I think its cuz anyone who buys an open bow (at least the few I boat with) are pansies and dont push the throttles far enought forward!!!! :evilb: :kiss:

1. You don't know that because I fail to get the invite:eek::violent-smiley-045:
2. I think you are scared to get passed by me so that answers #1 question:eek::popcorn:

MahopacMarine 09-28-2010 08:25 AM

The mid cabin is a tad slower but not by much. A lot has to do with the wind drag. If the front cover is open, you WILL lose 2-3 mph. With is closed, you will only lose 1-2. The air is forced down into the cabin or against the cabin door.
This loss of mph can always be taken back by more power!
EagleDM's with the 525 runs about 80-81 and LiveWires runs about 82 with a Raylar 700 and Whipple.

BTW, both boats are for sale.

sunsation96 09-28-2010 08:45 AM

I love the MCOB, I will admit we have not used it but I like the idea of having it, I just bought the boat so the weather has been on the cool side for it but next summer I am sure we will use it.

bsboss 09-28-2010 11:49 AM

I currently have the closed, but for me the forward space is mostly wasted or storage with the wife's "junk", and always hot. I think the MCOB would be more usable and get the best of both, but still like the speed and handling & style of closed.

sunsation96 09-28-2010 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by bsboss (Post 3218573)
I currently have the closed, but for me the forward space is mostly wasted or storage with the wife's "junk", and always hot. I think the MCOB would be more usable and get the best of both, but still like the speed and handling & style of closed.

Speed is almost the same that couple of MPH won't matter, the handling would be the same and the style well the closed does look good but I only have had the front cover off twice so far.

Jupiter Sunsation 09-28-2010 06:02 PM

MCOB's aren't going to be any slower than the closed deck versions. If both the cabin doors are open then the air will flow through the cabin with no resistance.

The V-berth is worthless in closed deck boats in FL due to the heat. With the MCOB the mid cabin has a nice breeze flowing through it at idle or slow speed. You get shade and a breeze!

MahopacMarine 09-28-2010 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3218891)
MCOB's aren't going to be any slower than the closed deck versions. If both the cabin doors are open then the air will flow through the cabin with no resistance.

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From a sales point of view I would love that to be true Scott. We have run both CB and MCOB side by side and the CB wins everytime. Not by much, but it does. Too much turbulence in the cabin once it enters the bow opening.

There are a lot more variable to contend with such as who has more in the boat, how much fuel, and the varied HP in each of the 496's.

But overall, I would say they are damn close but the CB usually pulls away. Doesnt run away, but walks away.

THE 288 KID 09-28-2010 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3218891)
MCOB's aren't going to be any slower than the closed deck versions. If both the cabin doors are open then the air will flow through the cabin with no resistance.

The V-berth is worthless in closed deck boats in FL due to the heat. With the MCOB the mid cabin has a nice breeze flowing through it at idle or slow speed. You get shade and a breeze!

That air flowing up over the bow, down the steps and back up through the door you talk about etc. Is called air drag. It's more noticeable at higher speeds. Once your able to hit the 70 mark u might see it more lmao

ICDEDPPL 11-20-2010 07:09 PM

is there a difference in rough water handling? ( Lake Michigan) I`m really starting to like the 32' midcabin set up.. this way the kids got somewhere else to go instead of us being on top of each other..

07DominatorSS 11-21-2010 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3257632)
is there a difference in rough water handling? ( Lake Michigan) I`m really starting to like the 32' midcabin set up.. this way the kids got somewhere else to go instead of us being on top of each other..

There is no difference in handling between the two. Yes, you may get a bit more wind through the cabin, but, you're gonna be do about 80 anyways, so wind, is wind. If you're interested, I have a 2007 32 Dom SS for sale with low hours. 496hos.

bert4332 11-21-2010 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3257632)
is there a difference in rough water handling? ( Lake Michigan) I`m really starting to like the 32' midcabin set up.. this way the kids got somewhere else to go instead of us being on top of each other..

This is EXACTLY why I want a mid-cabin, my kids bring their friends with my friends, and boom my cockpit is packed. Too hot to be in the cuddy in the TX daytime heat.

DaBank 11-25-2010 01:22 PM

I like mid/open bow alot better than closed bow where we boat in Lake Havasu, but a few weekends a year I wish it was a closed bow so I dont have to deal with all the people. Frank




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cig20 02-22-2011 09:35 AM

Did They Make Or Build A 25 Ft Mid Or Open Bow?

MahopacMarine 02-22-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by cig20 (Post 3332884)
Did They Make Or Build A 25 Ft Mid Or Open Bow?

No they did not. The smallest MCOB would be the 288.


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